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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: Now what? |
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Boss informed immigration that I finished work at my hagwon Feb 18th (about 4 months into the E-2 contract). From the words he used he said "we canceled the E-2 visa [for that day]" if I read him right. Mutual agreement.
From the USA. I wonder what is my official visa status now (i.e. a tourist, C-3 or?), and also from February 18th what options immigration gives me and for how long. Some threads seemed to say 14 days, some said 30.
If I don't find a job within (what is the actual time period) then I must leave the country? Would I be allowed to come right back to continue any kind of job search even if only for another short term 2 weeks?
(On a side note, I also wonder if immigration would allow me to even register on a longterm C-3 visa as that's what I had before the E-2 and it's still in the passport.) |
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Sage Monkey
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Huh? Fired???????? Well not in the harshest sense, it was a 30+ day notice, we took it step by step and they finally found a new teacher and I worked peacefully through my last day. I dunno what you meant. This was not a bad business situation, and I didn't just leave in one day.
In any sense, if this situation has lead to immigration being on some warpath to "deport" me quickly then I am DEFINATELY going to put my now-former school on school watch lists, as while I've said in other threads, my boss has at times been very vague on things but has still told me that "everything will be fine" and that he would issue a quote "good business letter of release" as soon as I found another school and quote, "you'll be [perfectly] fine as schools are always looking for teachers" and quote "don't worry we will help you [and take care of you] in any way we can." endquote. If my boss has otherwise done things to cause immigration to demand a quick deportation, then I would say I have DEFINATELY been mislead by him and look for that writeup within a week or two on various lists, FOR SURE. Unless I've misunderstood you.
What else could we have done? |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| cellphone wrote: |
Boss informed immigration that I finished work at my hagwon Feb 18th (about 4 months into the E-2 contract). From the words he used he said "we canceled the E-2 visa [for that day]" if I read him right. Mutual agreement.
From the USA. I wonder what is my official visa status now (i.e. a tourist, C-3 or?), and also from February 18th what options immigration gives me and for how long. Some threads seemed to say 14 days, some said 30.
If I don't find a job within (what is the actual time period) then I must leave the country? Would I be allowed to come right back to continue any kind of job search even if only for another short term 2 weeks?
(On a side note, I also wonder if immigration would allow me to even register on a longterm C-3 visa as that's what I had before the E-2 and it's still in the passport.) |
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Huh? Fired???????? Well not in the harshest sense, it was a 30+ day notice, we took it step by step and they finally found a new teacher and I worked peacefully through my last day. I dunno what you meant. This was not a bad business situation, and I didn't just leave in one day.
In any sense, if this situation has lead to immigration being on some warpath to "deport" me quickly then I am DEFINATELY going to put my now-former school on school watch lists, as while I've said in other threads, my boss has at times been very vague on things but has still told me that "everything will be fine" and that he would issue a quote "good business letter of release" as soon as I found another school and quote, "you'll be [perfectly] fine as schools are always looking for teachers" and quote "don't worry we will help you [and take care of you] in any way we can." endquote. If my boss has otherwise done things to cause immigration to demand a quick deportation, then I would say I have DEFINATELY been mislead by him and look for that writeup within a week or two on various lists, FOR SURE. Unless I've misunderstood you.
What else could we have done? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, you were fired. I envy you. God is speaking, listen well or be doomed |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| cellphone wrote: |
Huh? Fired???????? Well not in the harshest sense, it was a 30+ day notice, we took it step by step and they finally found a new teacher and I worked peacefully through my last day. I dunno what you meant. This was not a bad business situation, and I didn't just leave in one day.
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Unless you both went down to the immigration office together and canceled your E2 Visa, then yes, you were fired.
You now have two weeks to leave the country. Every day after that will incur a 100k Won fine.
You can't get a new visa in-country, you have to do it out-of-country. ie, in Japan. |
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Sage Monkey
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Unless you both went down to the immigration office together and canceled your E2 Visa, then yes, you were fired.
You now have two weeks to leave the country. Every day after that will incur a 100k Won fine. |
Thanks you two for explaining.
Well, this is NOT what I had agreed to with the boss, this is not at all the nature of his and my agreement in our last month. I specifically said a 'good business agreement for seperation' on 'good business terms' due to specific reasons that things were not working out but that I would fully cooperate and be professional for my remaining time, and furthermore I realize now how he was being tricky: in my last month I specifically asked him if he and I could go together to immigration since we were in agreement, first he said "oh sure" several times, but then near the very last day said "no really don't worry about it it's ok we don't need to" type of stuff. Furthermore beforehand we agreed he would give me a LoR, but then on the last day he changed and said that he only will once I find a new school. I should add that I previously told him that I am interested in staying as an esl teacher for quite some time and someday want to move onto university level, most likely in this country but otherwise in the esl field for sure. I told him I am not in this for just a year of 'fun' and recklessness, which is why I always had the best conduct possible on the job, and in no way deserve to have a 'fired' in my record.
I figured he was being quite misleading as I sort of sensed it in the nature of his speech and the nature of the other personnel at the end. For example the girl that usually ALWAYS oversees all meetings suddenly didn't show up -- and wouldn't talk to me -- on my very last day, even giving me a wierd attitude by ignoring me.
I actually had to call him up the other day to find out what they did. Otherwise he never would have told me any dates. Hmmm, yah "don't worry we will do everything to help you and take care of you."
Depending if my boss really gives me a LoR or causes trouble, I know I will be making additions to some blacklists and any other lists I can find in the next week or two.
Thanks for your answers. |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| My latest question. Because the boss officially canceled the E-2 visa on February 18th, and which means I have 14 days to leave the country, could I come right back and start up a new job search? Would I then be on a tourist and/or C-3 visa? |
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lawyertood
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Sorry if I didn't understand from what you have written so far but are you still in Korea? If so, someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but don't you need to apply to immigration to get permission for the 14 day extension? (I hear it is almost automatic) I would get to immigration and make sure you are okay.
Once you have left, you should be able to come back in as a tourist to do some job hunting.
I would also ask for /insist upon the release letter now so you have it in hand for job hunting. It will eliminate problems later if your former boss fails to provide it at all or in a timely manner. |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:31 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the reply, yah I am going to have to go to Mokdong immigration tomorrow to check up on it, even though I am busy with trying to arrange last minute school interviews/chats/etc.
Yah in Korea now, visa was canceled feb 18th. I assume that means Mar 3 or 4 as being 14 days.
However over on EFL - Law I read the admin believes that even with the E-2 canceled immigration still regards the E-2 would-be expiration as official, so even though you are a tourist no longer on E-2, you still are under E-2 dates. According to him.
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| I would also ask for /insist upon the release letter now so you have it in hand |
Yah that's the hard part and one of the things that has lead me to become increasingly suspect about my ex-employers authenticity and perhaps downright misleading behavior -- he said at the 30day notice he would give a LoR without fail per my request. Then on the last day he said he would give it only when I found a new job. He didn't deliver. With my schedule now very tight and time ticking, one wonders if he will at all and is doing so intentionally. I will have to ask him again soon.
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Good luck. I hope immigration will help you.
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