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ulsanchris
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 Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:11 am Post subject: Teacher gives students soju |
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My wife and I were talking with a second year highschool student (female), and she told us that last year one of her teachers give her whole class a case of soju while they were on a field. The teacher said some thing like "here, relieve your stress" when he gave the soju to them. They all drank it and got drunk. They also got sick. 
I was really shocked to hear that. I guess the parents never heard about it otherwise he would have been fired. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Teacher gives students soju |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| I guess the parents never heard about it otherwise he would have been fired. |
Or not. 
Sparkles*_* |
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Cthulhu
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Ask a large group of uni students and many will tell you that the first time they tried soju (or beer) was on a high-school overnight class trip--usually not a large quantity, but at least enough to get buzzed and sometimes enough to puke it out again. It seems like some kind of initiation, or maybe it's just a way to keep them quiet at night to give the teachers a break. Not the best of ideas though alcohol and teen life aren't exactly incompatible anywhere.
Or perhaps it's a kind of preperation for the travelling university drinking bingefest that is MT. |
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ulsanchris
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| i'm not surpised or shocked by teenagers drinking. What surprised me was that the teacher gave them the soju. Any teacher anywhere who gave their students should get in trouble. |
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On the other hand
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| Ask a large group of uni students and many will tell you that the first time they tried soju (or beer) was on a high-school overnight class trip--usually not a large quantity, but at least enough to get buzzed and sometimes enough to puke it out again. It seems like some kind of initiation, or maybe it's just a way to keep them quiet at night to give the teachers a break. Not the best of ideas though alcohol and teen life aren't exactly incompatible anywhere. |
At my high school graduation, alcohol was openly sold to anyone who wanted to buy it, including people who were underage. As I recall, many of us got completely plastered. And it was an official school function, not some backwoods bush party.
This was in Canada, 1986. I suspect that high schools these days would be a lot less willing tio flaunt the law, what with the threat of lawsuits from drunk driving accidents and whatnot. |
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chiaa
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| Wonder if there will be an SBS program on this... |
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tommynomad
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:04 am Post subject: |
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At my high school graduation, alcohol was openly sold to anyone who wanted to buy it, including people who were underage. As I recall, many of us got completely plastered. And it was an official school function, not some backwoods bush party.
This was in Canada, 1986. |
Hey! We're the same age! At mine we had a car in the parking lot with a trunk converted to a giant, stocked cooler.
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| I suspect that high schools these days would be a lot less willing to flaunt the law, what with the threat of lawsuits from drunk driving accidents and whatnot. |
Now they have "Safe Grad" or "After Grad" at which alcohol is sold to the over 18s (and through them to their younger peers). At the last one I attended (1995), we smoked a joint on the bus from grad to safegrad and no one gave a hoot. They do control these adjunct events enough so no one has the opportunity to drive home, which is a good thing. Our experience proves teens'll drink, so you might as well keep 'em from driving. |
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Derrek
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One of my student proudly informed me that they drank on their student retreat a few years ago. When I asked how they got it, they said they called a Pizza Delivery place, and they delivered it. She said they were shocked that the Pizza guy actually did it, and they had to call around to several places to find someone who would.
I'd like to say that the teachers were looking out for this, but they were too busy getting drunk and eating raw fish until 3am. |
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Randall Flagg
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Ask a large group of uni students and many will tell you that the first time they tried soju (or beer) was on a high-school overnight class trip--usually not a large quantity, but at least enough to get buzzed and sometimes enough to puke it out again. It seems like some kind of initiation, or maybe it's just a way to keep them quiet at night to give the teachers a break. Not the best of ideas though alcohol and teen life aren't exactly incompatible anywhere. |
At my high school graduation, alcohol was openly sold to anyone who wanted to buy it, including people who were underage. As I recall, many of us got completely plastered. And it was an official school function, not some backwoods bush party.
This was in Canada, 1986. I suspect that high schools these days would be a lot less willing tio flaunt the law, what with the threat of lawsuits from drunk driving accidents and whatnot. |
The highschool in my town still does this every year. Anyone over 16 and under 21 can attend. Kids in the west are going to party regardless of alcohol laws. Having a function where teens can get schit-faced and still have a safe ride home is a good idea. I'd rather see underage people drinking and going home with a sober driver rather than encountering them on the road myself while they are behind the wheel. 16 year olds can't really drink, let alone drive...do the math. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I'd rather see underage people drinking and going home with a sober driver rather than encountering them on the road myself while they are behind the wheel. 16 year olds can't really drink, let alone drive...do the math.
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Yeah, the Safe Grad sounds like a great idea. Much better than the system at my grad, where the school itself enabled kids to buy booze, and then didn't make any arrangements for a safe ride home(at least not that I recall).
The only problem I could see with something like Safe Grad would be if a kid is somehow able to get behind the wheels of a car after going out to the supervised drinking party. Then I'd imagine the school would have a major lawsuit on their hands. To be truly effective, I think you'd have to have measures in place to prevent any kid at the Safe Grad from getting into a car that night. |
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Randall Flagg
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That's a really difficult situation to keep under control.
Everyone gets picked up from one location and taken to "secret party location". All the cars are parked in a compound and you can't access it until the next afternoon. This isn't a perfect method but at least it helps a bit.
The police in my town fully support Safegrad, as do most parents. |
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Derrek
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It all sounds wonderful, but in my home town, they made big threats about lawsuits for providing alcohol to minors and threatened suits, etc.
The police were very much against it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't this just a cultural variation of what happens pretty much everywhere?
When I was in Junior High, the story went around that Vic. S. got his girlfriend Sandy S. drunk on beer and (strongly) urged her to go down the beach a bit and f*** Clyde W., the sexy 5th grade teacher. Naturally, she did. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Isn't this just a cultural variation of what happens pretty much everywhere?
When I was in Junior High, the story went around that Vic. S. got his girlfriend Sandy S. drunk on beer and (strongly) urged her to go down the beach a bit and f*** Clyde W., the sexy 5th grade teacher. Naturally, she did. |
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On the other hand
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That's a really difficult situation to keep under control.
Everyone gets picked up from one location and taken to "secret party location". All the cars are parked in a compound and you can't access it until the next afternoon. This isn't a perfect method but at least it helps a bit.
The police in my town fully support Safegrad, as do most parents.
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That's exactly what I had in mind when I talked about controlling the event.
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| in my home town, they made big threats about lawsuits for providing alcohol to minors and threatened suits, |
I could definitley see a problem if some kid got sick or even died after drinking to excess. Then, the school would probably be liable if they gave him the alcohol.
Do the kids need the parents permission to attend SafeGrad? And do the parents sign some sort of a waiver form?
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