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jar

Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Location: Belfast
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: Shoes when you're teaching. |
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Is it okay to wear sneakers (eg.converse) when you're teaching in Korea?
I remember when I was in Japan nearly all of my co-teachers would be really smartly dressed and then have a pair of nikeys on. It looked a bit odd, but it made sense.
When teaching at a public school do you change out of your 'everyday' shoes into your 'school' shoes at the front door like you do in Japan? |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Shoes when you're teaching. |
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jar wrote: |
school do you change out of your 'everyday' shoes into your 'school' shoes at the front door like you do in Japan? |
yup. I got a pair of pink mary janes that my students refer to as 'ballerina shoes' |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Yep, IT'S KOREAN PROTOCAL TO SLIP ON THEM SLIPPERS. NO SHOES ALLOWED! Your question is not on how to dress, but on how to follow their rules. Shoes in school don't matter. But dress smart, for the most part.
Even in public schools, they have some slippers at the front entrance. Wearing Nikes in Korea would be foolish. They usually wear shoes without laces, for just this reason. Everywhere you go you have to take off your shoes.
Why? It's a matter of hygiene. Koreans have some of the cleanest floors in the world. Plus, they sit on the floor, although not in the schools. It's just a cultural norm here not to wear shoes indoors. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Nah. I've got one same pair of shoes I use for streetwear, hiking, & teaching. Leather, but sturdy soled & comfortable. The kids have to switch to slippers at the door, but teachers generally dont. Go for comfort. No one will notice as long as they arent too garish. |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
Nah. I've got one same pair of shoes I use for streetwear, hiking, & teaching. Leather, but sturdy soled & comfortable. The kids have to switch to slippers at the door, but teachers generally dont. Go for comfort. No one will notice as long as they arent too garish. |
I disagree. A LOT OF schools will not allow shoe wearing inside. There are some that do, but after working here for years, I've found this to be uncommon. |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: |
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In 5 years, this is the first I hear of a rule for removing shoes by teachers (other than kindergarten) in class. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Rock wrote: |
schwa wrote: |
Nah. I've got one same pair of shoes I use for streetwear, hiking, & teaching. Leather, but sturdy soled & comfortable. The kids have to switch to slippers at the door, but teachers generally dont. Go for comfort. No one will notice as long as they arent too garish. |
I disagree. A LOT OF schools will not allow shoe wearing inside. There are some that do, but after working here for years, I've found this to be uncommon. |
I guess my experience is different then. I've worked in 5 different middle schools & none expected me to take off my shoes. I'm sensitive to this & would not have hesitated, but I was assured otherwise. No big deal to switch to plastic sandals if required. Public schools in general though have filthy floors. Kids are only required to wear slippers to keep the dust down. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:49 am Post subject: |
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my students tell me off if they see me wearing outside shoes inside! |
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d503

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Location: Daecheong, Seoul
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I love not having to wear my outside shoes inside.
It means that i can wear crazy shoes to work, and then just slip into a nice comfy pair of slippers. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately i have to wear slippers for kindergarten. Those little terrors are forever stubbing my toes and sliding their chairs onto my feet.
Slippers should be banned. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Okay according to whom? In my opinion, a gentleman does not wear sneakers to work.
Koreans don't wear sneakers to work. High school and middle schoolers wear them with their uniforms outside, but I have never seen them worn in the classroom.
In schools, it depends on the school whether you wear slippers. Most school I have seen were middle and high schools outside of Seoul. They never wore their shoes inside. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon wrote: |
Okay according to whom? In my opinion, a gentleman does not wear sneakers to work.
Koreans don't wear sneakers to work. High school and middle schoolers wear them with their uniforms outside, but I have never seen them worn in the classroom.
In schools, it depends on the school whether you wear slippers. Most school I have seen were middle and high schools outside of Seoul. They never wore their shoes inside. |
I can't stop laughing at all these kids walking around in ridiculous, dorky, ultra-conservative uniforms but then wearing sneakers. As for work, I'm usually in doc Martins, but sometimes when I've come from the gym I forget and just put my trainers on. No one seems to care. |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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In comparison to my schools in Japan, my two schools (so far) here in Korea are much less anal about indoor footwear.
In Japan, you were under no circumstances allowed to step beyond the school entrance in outdoor shoes (even if you wanted to just dash in and out again), and there was always a rack of slippers for those with none of their own. The teachers and students had a special pair of sneakers they had only for indoors.
(OK it does look stupid but at least everyone looks stupid together)
Here, I've found teachers and students alike wander around inside and outside the school in their indoor 'flip-flops', which contunues to perplex me... some teachers I know wear their 'indoor' shoes from their apartment and right into school without changing, whereas the students lug theirs to school every day and change at the entrance....
Actually I would prefer to wear sneakers or some kind of lace- or buckle-up shoe inside, because I find the slip-ons are not good for my feet... |
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tommynomad

Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Location: on the move
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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While interviewing for jobs here, I told one uni that I couldn't wear shoes while teaching.
They were pretty set on hiring me: 4 phone calls & 4 emails in two days, ramping up the offer, etc. By then I'd received another offer, and didn't want their job. Then the interview came. I was curious how ridiculous my demands would have to get for them to reject me.
"I think, based on my qualifications, a higher salary is in order."
"We'll consider it and get back to you."
"Is there a dress code?"
"We expect our professors to dress neatly and professionally."
"I won't wear a tie."
"No problem."
"I want some upper-level courses."
"Well, ok."
"I can't wear shoes while teaching."
"I beg your pardon?"
"I can't wear shoes. Slippers are ok if I absolutely must wear something, but no shoes."
"May I ask 'why?'"
"Sure. Shoes separate us from the earth. They interfere with the flow of creative energy--I think we both agree teaching is a creative vocation--from the earth to us. Much in the same way wearing a necktie creates a block between the body and the mind."
"I see."
Two perfunctory questions later, the interview was over. (I didn't even get to talk about my hats. ) The next day, I got a polite rejection email suggesting that "perhaps a more progresssive" environment would be more suited to my style.
Interestingly, I made the same necktie-as-creative-energy block to my current employer, and they thought it sounded perfectly reasonable. Guess they're "more progressive." |
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Koreabound2004
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ekuboko wrote: |
Here, I've found teachers and students alike wander around inside and outside the school in their indoor 'flip-flops', which contunues to perplex me... some teachers I know wear their 'indoor' shoes from their apartment and right into school without changing, whereas the students lug theirs to school every day and change at the entrance....
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Exactly....so if they are gonna wear them inside and out...why should I change my shoes to slippers? I used to wear slippers when I first started, but then I just thought it was silly given that they all wear them outside anyways....and they look ridiculous also(bus. suit + green sun bees). I have not been asked or questioned, but if I ever am asked, I will tell them this. |
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