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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject: fashion question |
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For the last few years I've been paying closer attention to my teaching wear and I moved up to suits 2 years ago.
The problem is I have no idea about fashion whatsoever and I kind of have to take the word of the tailor. I can't listen to the girlfriend because she'd have me all gayed up in contemporary young Korean male fashion style.
So I'm wondering. Is there a website that explains what's good and what's not? |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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"Image management is the art of powering up non-verbal communication to transmit a predetermined impression. Effective image management can earn the prefessional greater respect, inspire trust, project personal power, efficiency, knowledge and other desirable attributes. The enterprise that neglects non-verbal communication is disregarding a potent business tool."
Business Apparel Categories
Business Formal
- Black or navy suit with a slight sheen or tone on tone.
- White, cream or pale blue shirt preferable with French cuffs
- Never, never wear short sleeves or button down collars.
- Tie with small pattern or plain, tastefully coordinated.
- Well shined black leather shoes with coordinated black leather belt.
- Jewellery that is elegant and not ostentatious.
Authoritative
- Navy, black or charcoal suit preferably with a fine pin stripe
- Double breasted presents itself as the ultimate in authoritative, power look.
- White or light coloured pastel shirt. If the suit is plain wear a striped shirt.
- French cuff - very appropriate. Never wear short sleeves or button down collars.
- Strongly constrasting tie; plain, small pattern or stripe. No picture or large design!!!
- Well shined black leather shoes with coordinated black leather belt.
- Jewellery that is elegant and not ostentatious.
Corporate Dress
- Season appropriate suit, sport jacket or blazer and pant.
- Medium to light coloured shirt with a suit, dark blazer or sport jacket. Button down collars are fine.
- Coordinated tie.
- Dark shoes well polished with matching belt.
- Tasteful jewellery that is not ostentatious.
Business Casual
- Sport jacket or blazer and dress pant or softly structured suit.
- Consider wool, microfibre or even silk. Textured fabrics are great.
- Patch pockets as a nice casual touch.
- Knit top or open collared shirt. T-shirts not a great idea.
- Long sleeves are best.
- Leather shoes with coordinated belt. Athletic shoes, boat shoes, etc... not acceptable.
- Tasteful jewellery that is not ostentatious.
Casual
- Semi casual slacks with a pressed crease in wool, microfibre, cotton or cotton blend.
- Knit top or open collared shirt. T-shirts not a great idea.
- Long sleeves are best
- Leather shoes with coordinated belt. Athletic shoes, boat shoes, etc... not acceptable.
- Tasteful jewellery that is not ostentatious
http://www.execstyle.com/fashion.asp |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Telluride
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: buymybook |
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Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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A good quality, black, pure new wool suit will never let you down. Work, weddings, furnerals. It's multi-functional and black looks good on everybody.
Observe how George Bush always sticks on the black suit when something heavy is going down. Research shows a dark colored suit gives the wearer a more sober, serious look. A man you can rely on. (not in Bushee's case of course!!)
In korea I'd never buy a heavy suit. Most of the year is too warm for a suit so lighter is better. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: buymybook |
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buymybook wrote: |
Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
Yes, you rod, I went to post-secondary school. I was a lit major so professionalism consists of growing hair long and writing clever things for the university newspaper. My father left an impression on me that is totally useless for this context -- he wore a uniform.
But the Perry Ellis thing is welcomed. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: fashion question |
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the_beaver wrote: |
For the last few years I've been paying closer attention to my teaching wear and I moved up to suits 2 years ago.
The problem is I have no idea about fashion whatsoever and I kind of have to take the word of the tailor. I can't listen to the girlfriend because she'd have me all gayed up in contemporary young Korean male fashion style.
So I'm wondering. Is there a website that explains what's good and what's not? |
Remember that Korean fashion is different from "Western fashion". Whom do you want to impress? I think there are ways to dress well in Korea that are pleasing to the Korean eye, but don't make you look too silly. I think that healthy balance is important. If this is what you want, as a Korean woman for advice. |
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Cacique

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I used to read Details and GQ to learn the basics of fashion and style. You can access them online at:
http://men.style.com/gq
My step-mon taught me a lot of basics too. If you have a female friend with an eye for fashion, take her shopping with you.
Cheers! |
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the_beaver

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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: |
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It's not that I dress badly now (I think). I wear suits and all, but I'm not really sure what looks good and what doesn't. Some good stuff here to help me out. Thanks. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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the_beaver wrote: |
It's not that I dress badly now (I think). I wear suits and all, but I'm not really sure what looks good and what doesn't. Some good stuff here to help me out. Thanks. |
Thats the hard thing. All of us being in Korea, probably don't have much sense of it either.
Sometimes when I'm back in the non-Korean world, I reflect on how I dress and why. Not sure if its good or bad.
Suits.. some of the English teachers who wear suits got a real weird fashion going on compared to what I'd see among the professionals in cities like New York, Chicago, and such.
Definetely extremely unique and strangely acceptable in Korea. I share your same concerns.
If I bought what most businessmen wear, I think the English Teachers would look at me strange too.
Tough on this question. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I wear dark suits, usually 3 piece, sometimes not. Light blue or white shirt, never button down collars. I have a lot of ties. I like strong contrast between the tie and the shirt. My ties are mostly striped. |
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kimchikowboy

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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:26 am Post subject: Re: buymybook |
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buymybook wrote: |
Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
If a young man our age who is not a business exec is in a suit it is because he is:
- a Jehovah's Witness
- an unsuccessful salesman
- going to a job interview
- an insecure teacher trying to make a good impression because he's not sure his educating would - like me at the parents' meeting. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: Re: buymybook |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
buymybook wrote: |
Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
If a young man our age who is not a business exec is in a suit it is because he is:
- a Jehovah's Witness
- an unsuccessful salesman
- going to a job interview
- an insecure teacher trying to make a good impression because he's not sure his educating would - like me at the parents' meeting. |
I think you're underestimating how much importance Korean place on 'looking the part'. A suit will get you far in this country. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: buymybook |
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eamo wrote: |
Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
buymybook wrote: |
Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
If a young man our age who is not a business exec is in a suit it is because he is:
- a Jehovah's Witness
- an unsuccessful salesman
- going to a job interview
- an insecure teacher trying to make a good impression because he's not sure his educating would - like me at the parents' meeting. |
I think you're underestimating how much importance Korean place on 'looking the part'. A suit will get you far in this country. |
Oh trust me, I've already figured that out. Everyone at the kindergarten graduation ceremony wanted to take my photo with their kids, even the ones whose kids weren't in my class. Who cares how farcical some of my classes are when I can get by looking well groomed and professional. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: buymybook |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
buymybook wrote: |
Did you really go to college or wasn't it very good. In my last year of college they taught me about professionalism, we had to dress-up one day in class and we discussed the matter. Didn't your father leave an impression on you, mine is a salesman and he finally taught me or I finally was ready to learn how to tie a tie. Go to Hyeondaiiiiiiiiiii department store look for "Perry Ellis," that is a good start. Good luck, and I'm glad to hear you have been and are attempting to look good! I only dress-up when I feel like it or on a special day. |
If a young man our age who is not a business exec is in a suit it is because he is:
- a Jehovah's Witness
- an unsuccessful salesman
- going to a job interview
- an insecure teacher trying to make a good impression because he's not sure his educating would - like me at the parents' meeting. |
Your age is what? 21? When I see most of the foreignes in Seoul I cant help thinking that they dress like complete slobs. Taking pride in your appearance is like an alien concept to the unshaven masses of foreigners wearing ill fitting, dirty jeans, sneakers and old sweatshirts. |
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