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School owners will hit employees if they want. They hit me.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: School owners will hit employees if they want. They hit me. Reply with quote

I used to work for one of those business that used the double bank account. The last month was pretty tense, there was plenty of lying going on and plenty of money owed. I pulled a "deposit grab" off.

One block away from the subway stop, my clerical employee showed up and started pushing me. "where are you going?" he asked and he pushed some more. He pushed me for a block and then he pushed me down the stairs at the subway station. He also to told me the police are on the way and that I'll be deported.

If you saw us together, you'd see why there wasn't a bigger fight. I'm much much bigger than him. We were both smart on that matter.

In the USA, you can't touch anyone much less push them several hundred feet. Here you can as long as its a foreigner.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. If the guy was saying I was going to be deported, I'd give him a good reason to deport me and I would have clocked him one. The double bank account was where your pay was being deposited into a bank account that wasn't yours?
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are alot of details, this is gonna be my favorite bar-time story for ever but yes, the money in the account is mine. Part of the scam was doing something so outrageous that calling attention to it is akin to actually proving UFO's are real when you actually can. The was no legitimacy behind the "contract" just a tremendous over the top bluff.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should have reported it to the boy scouts....um, i mean police.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man. I think the 'Derreked' label should now be updated to 'Dulouzed'. Shocked
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you are telling us, you worked a year without getting your full pay each and every month?
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TY for the responses.

Deposit grab? In the double account scam there are two accounts made. One is your account, the one you already have and the other is a new account that you need. the school won't tell you its an account. They get the card and passbook and then don't tell you that. None the less, its your account. You don't need the account number, just go to the bank with your passport and ARC and you can get whatever you want on your account be it info, a new card and a new PIN. You can aslo turn off the cards and passbooks. Get the deposit history and date in particular so you can do a DG.

The school-business uses your 2nd account to launder money. The schools that the teacher works at pays the teacher in this account. They never pay the school business. Then the business helps themselves to the money. My salary was 2 million, my pay from the school was 3.6 million.

A DG is done thusly,
1) Determine when school payday happens.
2) Change the PIN on the card on the same day.
3) Take all the money out of your account.

There is going to some particulars according to each case but this is what needs to be done for each DG.

There are a number of reasons why the business want the second account; tax avoidance, teacher placement law avoidence or bad credit history. In my case, my "owner" could not get a bank account due to liens, convictions and debts.

This was blast, I'm kind of glad it happened.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details, man. Details.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thats correct. Should I sue?
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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billyg



Joined: 16 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dulouz, so what's the state of things at the moment? Are you wandering the streets of SK, are you still lying at the bottom of the subway stairwell? Will you be able to get away with the money? You should exchange it and wire it home immediately. In fact, I will PM you my account number and I hold it for you, yeah, yeah, no problem.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sue them to get the 1.6 million extra for each of the other months? That would be hilarious. Maybe the bar story of all bar stories, especially if you win. However, I wouldn't let it pass them to argue that you had permitted the transactions or that it was a mistake. I don't know how it is in Korea, but I've read somewhere that in some US states, someone who deposits too much money in your bank account can sue you for a refund.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a lot of money. 1.6 * 12 = a lot of money. I feel like mischief. Whats a retainer cost here? They are entitled to make that argument but it would be nice to see this man sit through a good fleshing. Anything in the contract about two bank accounts? Hmmm... thats a lot of money.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The school-business uses your 2nd account to launder money.


1) Why are they laundering money? Tax evasion or something worse?

2) Do you really want to *beep* with these people?
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) laundering money is a bit of hyperbole. I admit to it .However, there is one facet of this experience I want to know about but I'm afraid to ask questions. Its about taxes. It is the position of Seoul Immigration that I made 3.6 million won each month. They were very clear about that. I have not learned the tax department's position yet and I am afraid to ask. Taxes on that pay are 300,000 won a month. If such is the case, then they indeed are laundering money.

2) These people are small time, absolutely no major threat. They have already sent their muscle out to me and it was not much muscle at all.

Its a husband-wife team. The husband is actually kind of smart but he leaves the boring admin work to the woman and shes a nut job. These work arrangments are fragile and she's a major klutz when handling them. She's a real ineffective criminal. Shes the kind of person that will sell drugs but then she will call the police on her buyers if she is angry with them for whatever reason. She can't make the link that acting that way will have repercussions in the same way.
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