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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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They've been saying that for about a year now here phx, but it's a sellers market...I just bought a fixer upper for 100K cash right off the I-17 and Bethany home. I'll sell it in three months for 145-50K after about 12-17K in materials...that's still good money. of course, I'll be splitting that profit with my brother, but hey, it's only a part time gig for me... |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Here in Korea, I'd say yeahid only because those million dollar apartments in Apgu are built just as shoddily as the ones everywhere else. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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no way housing prices will drop where I am (SF Bay Area). They might stop rising, but drop? hasn't happened yet in my life and no reason it would happen now. Don't know about the rest of the country or other parts of the world.
The economist said it is now a smarter move to rent than buy a house. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
no way housing prices will drop where I am (SF Bay Area). They might stop rising, but drop? hasn't happened yet in my life and no reason it would happen now. Don't know about the rest of the country or other parts of the world.
The economist said it is now a smarter move to rent than buy a house. |
Home owning baby boomers grow old and want to sell their homes and move into a smaller place. Baby boomers die and leave their homes to their children and the children sell to get cash. I'm sure there are some parts of America where there will always be people moving there (like SF) but when you think about it, the boomer generation is going to be disposing of their homes in bulk sooner or later. And there simply isn't the population under them to buy the property at higher values. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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good theory. I think that will be especially true in the northern states, which haven't seen much population growth in the past decade or two. Throw in the baby boomer situation and property prices are bound to remain static or drop. On the flipside, I doubt real estate prices will drop in FL, AZ, and other warm climate states due to a) general migration to those states b) baby boomers retiring to traditional retiree spots. |
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funplanet

Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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yep... |
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Harin

Joined: 03 May 2004 Location: Garden of Eden
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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god doesn't create any more land. i highly doubt that housing price'd ever go downhill. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it has in the past, quite often and usually sharply.
There is a correlation between the cost of the "average" house and "avaerage" earnings.
In UK, the historical mean is around 4. Below that, house rpices are considered low and above high. At present, the ratio is over 5, implying that either houses are 25% over-valued and liable to a drop of 20% or that salaries are 20% too low and need to increase by 25%. Which is the more likley do you think?
Prices have always reverted to the mean, usually overshooting.
I see no reason why that should not happen again this time.
Although I talk about UK, the principles apply equally in the US and elsewhere.
Well, which way do you think the graph is headed next? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Why did housing drop so much under Clinton? |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Where I am from and where I want to buy a house upon return, housing prices for new home are rising $3,000 A MONTH.
My brother bought a lot for 15.000 and in a year and a half the price has gone up to 40.000. A good part of this has to due to George Steinbrenner buying up a vast majority of the lots in the area. |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine bought a flat in Vancouver near 4th and Main just over 4 years ago.
Bring on the Olympics! |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Why did housing drop so much under Clinton? |
Because they were too expensive, as they are now. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Why did housing drop so much under Clinton? |
Curious, where did this happen? Certainly not anywhere where I was living during his presidency (N. CA, TN, MO) |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
Derrek wrote: |
Why did housing drop so much under Clinton? |
Curious, where did this happen? Certainly not anywhere where I was living during his presidency (N. CA, TN, MO) |
Some detail at http://www.ofheo.gov/media/pdf/4q04hpi.pdf
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