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DJCriticalMass
Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject: Does getting a CELTA certificate help getting a job? |
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Does getting a CELTA (Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults)certificate help getting a english teaching job in Korea?
http://www.icchawaii.edu/programs/CELTA/CELTA.htm |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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You would think it would, but it doesn't really help much in getting a job. A hakwon will hire just about anyone. A certificate might give you an edge over the uncertified in public schools and universities.
Having said that, I recommend getting one. Chances are, it will give you some preparation in teaching and that can't be a bad thing. |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003 Location: pusan baby!
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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It helps in every country in the world where people learn English apart from the one im sitting in.
However it will help you get half a clue about what teaching English is all about so on that basis alone its worth doing. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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JennyJJ
Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:13 am Post subject: |
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someone said:
It helps in every country in the world where people learn English apart from the one im sitting in.
Not really true, many countries don't care. The ONLY country that I ever worked in (of four Asian countries) that had any interest in previous training (other than degrees) was Thailand.
That said, it is a good idea to get trained in your future career. And, there is nothing wrong with actually being a decent teacher.
Only my opinion, and many others will argue strongly pro and con - CELTA is not the only pie in the sky.
If you are going to teach in Korea, you are most likely going to teach a lot of children and CELTA is an adult oriented program. Consider some of the TEFL Certs offered by in Thailand - that are more flexible. Where you will most likely get some teacher training with children students. |
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JacktheCat

Joined: 08 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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As someone who has a CELTA, I have to say:
Having a CELTA will actually decrease your job opportunities. Most schools would prefer to hire someone fresh off the boat with a degree in Basket Weaving. Easier to control and less likely to cause problems.
The best job qualification to have is blue eyes and blonde hair. If you're handsome and have blue eyes and blonde hair, you can get any job in Korea no matter what your teaching qualifications and experience are.
That said, a CELTA will make you a better teacher and greatly increase your confidence in class.
One caveat about the CELTA, however, is that it is very expensive, upwards of US $1500. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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JacktheCat wrote: |
That said, a CELTA will make you a better teacher and greatly increase your confidence in class.
One caveat about the CELTA, however, is that it is very expensive, upwards of US $1500. |
I have no idea why I waited so long to take the CELTA. Truly a great program. Very happy I did it. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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A friend has CELTA. In fact, he came to Korea in 2002 just to enroll in the programme. I asked him at the time if CELTA would translate into a higher salary and he said not likely in Korea, but it could give him a leg up in a hiring situation if other candidates didn't have one. But it didn't really matter as he wasn't planning to work in Korea. (He ended up doing just that, though. ) He only teaches adults, so CELTA was ideal in that respect.
I remember him saying that several of the (ex-pat) senior instructors where he works have a fair amount of real input in hiring decisions. As most (all?) of them have CELTA, it's probably safe to say that not having one won't help you land a job there. That was a few years ago, so who knows what the story is these days.
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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JacktheCat wrote: |
Having a CELTA will actually decrease your job opportunities. Most schools would prefer to hire someone fresh off the boat with a degree in Basket Weaving. Easier to control and less likely to cause problems.
The best job qualification to have is blue eyes and blonde hair. If you're handsome and have blue eyes and blonde hair, you can get any job in Korea no matter what your teaching qualifications and experience are. |
Here are few qualification listings for jobs pulled straight from the current Korean Jobs offered section of Daves ESL Cafe:
Qualifications: BA/BSc. or higher. Prefer applicants with some formal
ESL teaching experience. Applicants with a TESOL, CELTA, TEFL
certificate preferred.
Qualifications:
* Bachelors Degree (English/TESOL Major preferred)
* Graduated from a well-recognized University
* Flexible and cooperative team player
* TESOL certified with 1 to 2 years teaching experience preferred
Qualifications
1) Be a Native Speaker of English Speaking Country
(America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, England, South Africa)
2) Hold a Bachelor's degree or higher.
(English and Education majors, or those with TESOL
certificates are preferred)-Hold a University degree)
A Bachelor of Arts in any subject is required for a working visa. TESOL or other ESL training is preferred.
QUALIFICATIONS
- English should be your native language
- 4 years university degree (TESOL/ CELTA/ ESOL certificate is just preferred, not required)
- 3 years college diploma (BA, BS)
And that's just the beginning....
Honestly, why would any who takes teaching seriously and has a strong desire to upgrade their qualifications in a course as intensive as the CELTA have any desire to work at a place that only values thngs as superficial as apperances anyway? |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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adventureman wrote: |
JacktheCat wrote: |
Having a CELTA will actually decrease your job opportunities. Most schools would prefer to hire someone fresh off the boat with a degree in Basket Weaving. Easier to control and less likely to cause problems.
The best job qualification to have is blue eyes and blonde hair. If you're handsome and have blue eyes and blonde hair, you can get any job in Korea no matter what your teaching qualifications and experience are. |
Here are few qualification listings for jobs pulled straight from the current Korean Jobs offered section of Daves ESL Cafe:
Qualifications: BA/BSc. or higher. Prefer applicants with some formal
ESL teaching experience. Applicants with a TESOL, CELTA, TEFL
certificate preferred.
Qualifications:
* Bachelors Degree (English/TESOL Major preferred)
* Graduated from a well-recognized University
* Flexible and cooperative team player
* TESOL certified with 1 to 2 years teaching experience preferred
Qualifications
1) Be a Native Speaker of English Speaking Country
(America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, England, South Africa)
2) Hold a Bachelor's degree or higher.
(English and Education majors, or those with TESOL
certificates are preferred)-Hold a University degree)
A Bachelor of Arts in any subject is required for a working visa. TESOL or other ESL training is preferred.
QUALIFICATIONS
- English should be your native language
- 4 years university degree (TESOL/ CELTA/ ESOL certificate is just preferred, not required)
- 3 years college diploma (BA, BS)
And that's just the beginning....
Honestly, why would any who takes teaching seriously and has a strong desire to upgrade their qualifications in a course as intensive as the CELTA have any desire to work at a place that only values thngs as superficial as apperances anyway? |
I'd be willing to bet anything that that job would hire someone with the preferred demographics with no certificate over someone who doesn't have the preferred demographics with the certificate. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Saxiif wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet anything that that job would hire someone with the preferred demographics with no certificate over someone who doesn't have the preferred demographics with the certificate. |
So what you're saying is, in Korea, if this guy had a CELTA
he'd lose out to this guy without a CELTA?
Or are you saying something else? |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
Saxiif wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet anything that that job would hire someone with the preferred demographics with no certificate over someone who doesn't have the preferred demographics with the certificate. |
So what you're saying is, in Korea, if this guy had a CELTA
he'd lose out to this guy without a CELTA?
Or are you saying something else? |
Are you discriminitory against aging bald men Jongnoguru? FYI, I've grown my wavy blonde locks back in quite nicely since that picture was taken... |
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DJCriticalMass
Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. There are so many opinons on the topic at hand.
Well its around 2 grand to get the CELTA certificate here in Hawaii.
Do most hagwons or schools train you before you start teaching?
Whats the average monthly salary for a 1st year teacher? |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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DJCriticalMass wrote: |
Do most hagwons or schools train you before you start teaching? |
Absolutely! If you consider being lead by the arm to your classroom "training".
DJCriticalMass wrote: |
Whats the average monthly salary for a 1st year teacher? |
About 2 million. Coincidentally, this is also seems to be the average salary for a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year teacher. |
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