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| Which do you prefer? - Costco, Carrefour, or Walmart? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: Which do you prefer? - Costco, Carrefour, or Walmart? |
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Which do you prefer? - Costco, Carrefour, or Walmart?
WHY? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Costco has affordable meats and cheese (I mean nice meats and cheese). The other two don't. |
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panthermodern
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: |
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If you don't live near any of the three ...
I live in Songpa Seoul, the cloeset Walmart in Gangnam SUCKS!
Closest Carrefore is in Bundanm and the costco is about 45 min away ...
Myopic thread. |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| I have never been to Walmart or Costco but I live near a Carrefour. Great French marmalade... |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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costco has garden burgers.  |
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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Homeplus. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| All 3 are accessible to me now, and I think together they fulfill my basic needs. If I had to choose just one (and the others would permanently disappear) it would have to be Carrefour since it is the most practical for a mixed (western and Korean) household. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| casey's moon wrote: |
| All 3 are accessible to me now, and I think together they fulfill my basic needs. If I had to choose just one (and the others would permanently disappear) it would have to be Carrefour since it is the most practical for a mixed (western and Korean) household. |
I agree. Whilst I like costco for their cheap meats, I prefer carrefour because you can buy things in a smaller quantity. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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The Walmarts here are only good for carrying those "Great Value" products.
Emart is better than Carrefour overall, but either one will do for the basics.
Costco is pretty much bulk only, though it is possible to buy a few smaller things (like sketti sauce). |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I second the Home Plus nomination... a good combination of selection and size. CostCo is too much bulk for me, no Walmart nearby, nor Carrefour. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| The Carrefour near my place has the best doumi. That's all I really care about. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Please let us not forget that Walmart is in the habit of doing things like cheating its employees, and closing stores that might unionize, as well as violating child labor laws, and lobbying to have its truck drivers on the road 14 hours a day (for the same pay as their legally limited 10 hour day).
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Wal-Mart takes hits on worker treatment
By Stephanie Armour, USA TODAY
There's more to Wal-Mart than bare-bones pricing and a familiar yellow smiling face. The megaretailer is also getting an unwelcome reputation for the way it treats its employees.
At the pinnacle of its success, the company is fending off critics who say Wal-Mart discriminates against women, underpays workers and uses illegal tactics to kill unionization efforts. Never before has the retail empire, founded in 1962, come under such blistering attack.
Roughly 40 lawsuits have been filed by employees who say they were forced to work overtime for no pay. The company is facing a sexual discrimination lawsuit in California that could become the largest such case in history. |
http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2003-02-09-wal-mart-cov2_x.htm
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Truck drivers' work days could lengthen
Some retailers are pushing for a law that would let truck drivers stay on the road for more than the legal 11 hours
Story filed by NewsCenter16 Reporter
Stephanie Stang
A new law could have truckers working longer hours.
Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, is one of many companies pushing for more driving hours for truck drivers.
For a trucker an eleven-hour workday is typical, but now that day could be even longer.
Truck driver Gary Johnson is making his way from New Jersey to Seattle. He says he spends about nine to 10 hours driving a day. ��A lot of times not quite at ten because I don't want to go over,�� said Johnson.
Under current rules, nationally truckers can only spent a maximum of 11 hours a day on the road, but Wal-Mart and other retailers are lobbying Congress to change that to 14 hours.
Proponents say the bill would reduce driver layovers and give them a better chance to make deliveries on time. Critics say the problem with the plan is that more truckers would be on the road, but with longer hours with could be dangerous for other drivers
Truck driver Danny Hotham said, ��Why would you want to drive 16 hours a day for the same pay. We don��t get paid by the hour. You just don��t know, it could be bad, a guy dozes off can take three cars with him.�� |
http://www.wndu.com/news/032005/news_40900.php
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| Union leaders opposed to the plan have cited a list of labor offenses, from a recent settlement involving allegations that WalMart violated child labor laws to the company's decision to close a Quebec store when it was poised to become the first one in Canada to unionize. |
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050225/NEWS/502250335/1001/BUSINESS |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm a Costco man - any place that sells microwaveable burritos will always hold a special place in my heart.
And lets not forget that Carrefour is French so I can't even pronounce it correctly. To Hades with you, Callepoo! |
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SarcasmKills
Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: |
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1. Costco
2. HomePlus
3. Carrefour
2324. E-Mart |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand, Costco has a great labor record, and still manages to flourish:
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Seattle P-I: Costco's Love of Labor: Employees' Well-Being Key to Its Success
March 31, 2004
When grocery store workers picketed in California earlier this year, Costco Wholesale Corp. avoided the fray, quietly renegotiating a separate contract with its union employees there.
The three-year deal, which was ratified by more than 90 percent of the workers, included higher wages for employees and increased the company's contribution to their pension plans.
Only about 13 percent of Costco's 103,000 workers are unionized, but the relative labor peace is symbolic of the company's relations with employees.
The Issaquah-based company pays among the highest salaries in the retail industry. A new employee working at one of Costco's warehouses starts with an hourly wage of at least $10. After four years with the company, a cashier can earn around $44,000, including bonuses.
Costco's health-care benefits are available to most of its employees. And although it recently increased its employee health care contribution, the company covers about 92 percent of health care costs, generous by industry standards.
With its relationship with workers in good standing, Costco's sales increased during the Southern California strike as consumers avoided picket lines at other retailers and shopped at its warehouses.
The company's employees in Washington state are not unionized. But at a time when some grocery companies say they have to contain their labor costs, Chief Executive Jim Sinegal believes in compensating the people who built the $42 billion business into what it is today.
"They're entitled to buy homes and live in reasonably nice neighborhoods and send their children to school," he said during an interview last week at the company's corporate headquarters.
And employees say they can. Twenty-six-year-old Amber Anderson, who works in the company's Shoreline warehouse, purchased a Silver Lake home last year with her husband, also a Costco employee. |
http://www.teamster.org/04news/hn_040331_3.htm
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Indeed, Costco's pay is much, much, much better -- a full-time Costco clerk or warehouse worker earns more than $41,000 a year, plus getting terrific health-care coverage. Wal-Mart workers get barely a third of that pay, plus a lousy health-care plan. Costco even has unions!
Yet, Costco's labor costs are only about half of Wal-Mart's. How's that possible? One reason is that Costco workers feel valued, which adds enormously to their productivity, and they don't leave -- employee turnover is a tiny fraction of Wal-Mart's rapidly revolving door. |
http://www.alternet.org/story/19014
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Surprisingly, however, Costco's high-wage approach actually beats Wal-Mart at its own game on many measures. BusinessWeek ran through the numbers from each company to compare Costco and Sam's Club, the Wal-Mart warehouse unit that competes directly with Costco. We found that by compensating employees generously to motivate and retain good workers, one-fifth of whom are unionized, Costco gets lower turnover and higher productivity. Combined with a smart business strategy that sells a mix of higher-margin products to more affluent customers, Costco actually keeps its labor costs lower than Wal-Mart's as a percentage of sales, and its 68,000 hourly workers in the U.S. sell more per square foot. Put another way, the 102,000 Sam's employees in the U.S. generated some $35 billion in sales last year, while Costco did $34 billion with one-third fewer employees.
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http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_15/b3878084_mz021.htm
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