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Your ideal hagwon: 10 basic improvements.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Your ideal hagwon: 10 basic improvements. Reply with quote

These would be my basic rules:

1)Corporal punishment for all displays of cheek/ lack of respect for foreign teachers. Effective discipline for a whole dizzying array of bad behavior.
2) Proper communication fostered between management and staff, a united approach.
3)Proper communication between teachers and parents- a co-operative spirit.
4) Cross cultural education: korean kids must get a proper perspective/lessons on other cultures, with appropriate attitudes instilled.
5) New and updated teaching equipment. A budget for repairs and a steady supply of marker pens.
6) Expulsion for persistently disruptive children.
7) Qualified staff- at least Korean and foreign teachers would have to undergo a proper induction course/in-house training before starting work.
Cool Proper treatment of employees: pay on time, no contract violations etc.
9) Controls on class sizes: no more than 7 per class.
10) Time: lessons no longer than 35 mins each.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would settle for simple organizational skills.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the ones you have are good. Mine are a little different -- probably because I don't teach kids.

1. A firm knowledge of education and second language education in teachers and policy makers.
2. Computers with speakers and projectors hooked up and all listening/video aids organized in the appropriate folders.
3. A system of evaluation based on can do/can't do.
4. A series of regular lectures (outside of normal class time) which guide students into learner autonomy and knowing that the classroom is just a small part of learning English.
5. A cohesive syllabus that recycles topics, with a slightly different slant, in the long term.
6. A combined skills approach.
7. Materials which a native speaker would find interesting in terms of content.
8. Bonuses to teachers for teacher development (attending conferences, classes, etc).
9. Number of hours should not exceed 12 per week unless a teacher has shown him/herself effective with planning, grading and teaching.
10. Peer observation.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:

1. A firm knowledge of education and second language education in teachers and policy makers.
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Yep. Hagwon management should be experienced teachers who can at least speak English, and even take a small part in teaching duties, so they know what they're talking about.
No more "Illiterate inexperienced supervisor, hired for her racist viewpoint of foreigners'.


I really think the Korean management concept needs reforming.
No more aloof/unnaproachable boss, giving absurd dictates through his equally power-tripping "supervisor" intermediary.
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuity in scheduling and class makeup.
It seems like every time a new group of classmates gets used to each other/the teacher/the rules and finally gets down to doing some serious work, the school changes it all again, some on average every 6 weeks. This just isn't good for anyone or trying to evaluate learning.
One school listened and stopped trying to tinker with the classes all the time, I had the same groups for a whole 6 months!
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
Continuity in scheduling and class makeup.
It seems like every time a new group of classmates gets used to each other/the teacher/the rules and finally gets down to doing some serious work, the school changes it all again, some on average every 6 weeks. This just isn't good for anyone or trying to evaluate learning.
One school listened and stopped trying to tinker with the classes all the time, I had the same groups for a whole 6 months!


No.

I get sick of them very quickly.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you forget to list the 6 week paid vacation in Bali every 3 months?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
Continuity in scheduling and class makeup.
It seems like every time a new group of classmates gets used to each other/the teacher/the rules and finally gets down to doing some serious work, the school changes it all again, some on average every 6 weeks. This just isn't good for anyone or trying to evaluate learning.
One school listened and stopped trying to tinker with the classes all the time, I had the same groups for a whole 6 months!


No. Divide, subdivide and conquer is the best way.
My hagwon won't separate longstanding cliques, gangs and troublemakers for fear that they will want to move to a different school.
A lot of brats are controlled simply by shifting them to new surroundings every few months.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about abiding by contractural obligations.

Its all I've ever asked.
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please God. All I want is a little support!
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cross-cultural education:

Once a month, a member of the foreign community in Korea is invited in to give a talk to the kids about his country, complete with slideshow/pictures, and a question and answer session.
Could be a visiting businessman, tourist, or Bangladeshi DDD worker, doesn't matter.
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iiicalypso



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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10) Time: lessons no longer than 35 mins each.


I would disagree with this one point only because I teach writing. I have complained that my 45 minute classes were too short, since we lose the first five and last five every class.

I would replace this item with "floors must be washed every six months, whether they need it or not." It is very hard to feel like a professional when you work in an environment that is filthy. I would forfeit anything that fell on the floor (pencils, erasers, student work) rather than touch the disgusting thing.
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matthewwoodford



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching resources would be nice. Tapes, teachers books, reading books, activities, etc.
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Saxiif



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iiicalypso wrote:
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10) Time: lessons no longer than 35 mins each.


I would disagree with this one point only because I teach writing. I have complained that my 45 minute classes were too short, since we lose the first five and last five every class.

Well for a lot of classes its GOOD to lose those minutes, makes it so that you have the keep the litte horrors in line for that much less time. But for other classes its good to have the kids around for a while, I've got some 3 hour classes and one of them is a great class...
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Unreal



Joined: 01 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Your ideal hagwon: 10 basic improvements. Reply with quote

rapier wrote:

2) Proper communication fostered between management and staff, a united approach.
3)Proper communication between teachers and parents- a co-operative spirit.


I'd like to see my school implement these rules. Right now the students and parents know that they can play the owner and the teachers off each other so whenever the students don't like a teacher they complain to their parents, parents complain to owner, teacher gets fired.

There is no talking to the teacher to find out the problem or finding out if there are some problem students but the teacher simply finds him/her self fired one day (Oh yeah, and the theory of our owner is that there are no bad students, just teachers who are unable to control their classes).

I have seen at least 3 teachers canned in the last 6 months (1 foreigner, 2 Koreans) because of student complaints. I understand that sometimes teachers should be fired but they should have a chance to defend themselves before the owner takes the word of a few students. At least 2 of the firings were because the teacher was "unable to control" her classes.

Right now there are two factions in our school: the owner and the students/parents vs. the teachers. And one side always wins...if you consider getting your own way winning.
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