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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:59 pm Post subject: Studying French |
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Hey all,
I've decided that I want to learn French. Not in the way I "learn" Korean, but I want to be fully bilingual, and do a degree at a Quebec university at some point. I've been looking into the immersion program in Chicoutimi, and it looks good. Does anybody else have any tips on another way to go about this, which you know is effective? Also, does anybody have any experience with the Chicoutimi program?
Thanks,
KN |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Studying French |
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| Korea Newfie wrote: |
Hey all,
I've decided that I want to learn French. Not in the way I "learn" Korean, but I want to be fully bilingual, and do a degree at a Quebec university at some point. I've been looking into the immersion program in Chicoutimi, and it looks good. Does anybody else have any tips on another way to go about this, which you know is effective? Also, does anybody have any experience with the Chicoutimi program?
Thanks,
KN |
I have experience not knowing how to pronounce "Chicoutimi." Ok, tanfastic that you want to learn French, but one question (and no, this is NOT trolling) why would you want to learn French from the Quebecois? I, mean, why not go to France? Is it because you're Canadian and it'd be cheaper?
From my experience, I was born in a Spanish speaking country, and my parents are Spanish speakers, but I was raised with 100% English from 1st grade on (immigrated)....when I came of college age, my folks wanted me to learn Spanish in an intensive program. Where was I to be sent? Not my Central American native country where I've friends and family to rely on, but to Spain.
Shoosh,
Ryst
Disclaimer: I swear this isn't meant to offend anyone, if I have, an advanced 'Sorry." |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Studying French |
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| Korea Newfie wrote: |
| Does anybody else have any tips on another way to go about this, which you know is effective? |
Get a bilingual non-imperative job with the fed gov and have them pay you to learn French. With experience abroad, and a degree, and an economically depressed regional background (I.e. Newfoundland) you've got a shot at winning a competition for jobs in CIC, DFAIT, CCRA...
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| If you're looking to brush up with a few conversational lessons while you're still here in korea, just advertise in the seoul classifieds. Alternatively, PM me, i know someone who could help you... |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Studying French |
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| Ryst Helmut wrote: |
| why would you want to learn French from the Quebecois? I, mean, why not go to France? Is it because you're Canadian and it'd be cheaper? |
Ryst, don't worry about offending. Your question suggests a lack of knowledge, and I'll enlighten you. In Canada, we speak English and French. I'm sure you're aware of the difference between North Americans and the English (for example) in their spoken English. Well, the same difference, if not greater, exists between Canadian French and that of the French.
Anyway, why one would prefer to go to greater expense and difficulty to learn a language, I'm unsure. I'm looking for the best way to learn French, not the most interesting, etc. Would Americans go to England to learn English? |
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gambo tong
Joined: 24 Sep 2003
Location: Pyeongcheon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:25 pm Post subject: Chicoutimi |
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Hi Korea Newfie,
I did a French immersion program in Chicoutimi 5 years ago. It was one of the best things I've ever done: the program is great, lots of interesting cultural activities outside of class time. A good friend of mine did it this past summer and she told me all about it. It sounds like the program is even better than when I did it. Chicoutimi is ideal because there are very few English-speakers in the city (unlike Montreal or Quebec City). If you're serious about learning French my advice is to stay with a host family (and not in the University residence) and stick to the French-only rule as much as possible. There are many students who don't and don't get as much out of the experience. PM me if you want more info. Good luck!  |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Studying French |
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| Ryst Helmut wrote: |
| why would you want to learn French from the Quebecois? I, mean, why not go to France? Is it because you're Canadian and it'd be cheaper? |
Ryst, don't worry about offending. Your question suggests a lack of knowledge, and I'll enlighten you. In Canada, we speak English and French. I'm sure you're aware of the difference between North Americans and the English (for example) in their spoken English. Well, the same difference, if not greater, exists between Canadian French and that of the French.
Anyway, why one would prefer to go to greater expense and difficulty to learn a language, I'm unsure. I'm looking for the best way to learn French, not the most interesting, etc. Would Americans go to England to learn English? |
Sorry, know all too well about French-Canada, as my 'hometown' is over-run with them in winter (Miami Beach and northward), and they refuse to speak English, so yes...as a worker in the service industry, I had to learn basic French. If I were to learn French, I would go to France.
Americans already (ok, some of them) already speak English, so why go to England? Now, if I were to reside in Korea for the rest of my life and raise my children in a Korean-only atmosphere, we would send our kids to a native-English speaking country for learning, be it England, America or Canada (for example), but not Nigeria, Panama, or Puerto Rico.
I have only two decent gauges of experience with the French and those coming from French speaking areas....one while packsacking through France for a couple of weeks with a Quebecois. The French really didn't seem to understand him all that well, and snubbed their nose<s> at him. Ok, so the French do that to all... and then at my language program where I study Korean. There are several Congolese (French speaking country) students whom I give rides home to. One day, I took a French (from France) professor home, and during their conversation, the professor asked them to reiterate their statement in English. I take that as the native French speaker not understanding them....be it for whatever reason...as I did not comprehend much at that point.
I assume that this topic is as lame and retarded as the issue of certain English teachers here in Korea not speaking English....ummm, to the 'right' accent<s>.
Oh, and another reason why I'd probably go to France, is that so many other students (from various nations) go there for language study, so I think there would be a greater choice of programmes and quality.
Shoosh,
Ryst |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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>. I'm interested in maintaining my French as well. Hence, i've scooped up as a many French sub-titled DVDs in Yongsang as has been possible. I also have a number of French books on my shelves at home ranging from grammar to easy to read classic texts such as Hugo's "Notre Dame de Paris". These you can easily find, most at a reasonable price, stocked at Gyo-bo Moon Go.
One thing as well i did last year was form a mini study group with my gf & one of my university Eng. students. Alas, 2005 has, at least in forming a study group, to this point been something of a bust.
Bon chance. |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, perhaps a study group 2005 should be formed. I'm sure you'd have alot of interest, and not just form Canucks either. Heck, I'd be down if just to tame my francophone accent (tired of being a white dude with a west african voice) |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm interested if anyone's starting a group (intermediate level speaker).
Out of curiosity, did anyone see Notre Dame de Paris at the Sejong Arts Centre last week? |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| move to montreal and get a job in the service industry, that worked for me |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think comparing Congolese to Quebecois French is a huge stretch. He wants to learn French to communicate with French-Canadians. Besides, I've travelled with French and French-Canadians at the same time. They didn't seem to have any trouble understanding each other at all. As a Canadian, he would pay far higher fees in France than in Quebec. I guess. I hear that Quebec is unique in Canada because actually has an "in-state" discount for tuition like American states. Est ce-que c'est vrai?
That said, I really really like France.
You right-wing nutjobs, feel free to quote me on that one.
I must be feeling better. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Pangit
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Since nobody's commenting directly about the program:
My mother actually did this program. It's been around for quite a while. In fact, she did it in 1997. I assume it's the same one because how many other places are going to run the program in Chicoutimi? I'm sure the program has matured and gotten better over the years. It should, shouldn't it? It was alright to begin with. Mom wasn't a horrible speaker going in, but she came out of it with suitable proficiency. Of course, she didn't actually maintain or develop her French language ability further after having done the program, I don't think. My mother stayed with a local family and experienced the full immersion of living with French speakers and being able to practice the language - single middle-aged working mom living with her smoking 16 year old daughter and everything. If anything, it was good for her to brush up on what she already knew, add a bit more to her knowledge, and practically apply it. I guess you'd do well to take the program and ensure that you're maintaining or developing further your language proficiency after you've finished with it. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Does somebody have a link to information about this course? How many years does it take to complete? |
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