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deffo
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
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 Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: feminism in Korea |
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They've fully and successfully industrialised. They've got planes, they've got trains, they've got automobiles. They've got Jesus, they've got bread, they've got wine. Plastic surgery is their most accomplished art form. But top of the list of "Great Evils of the Wicked Western World" that our gracious hosts have failed to fully ingest has to be, for my money, feminism.
In my whole time here (ooh, all of 1.5 years) I've met only one Korean woman (or man) whom I'd describe as a "feminist". Sure, there are plenty of privileged young ladies more than willing to complain about "the situation" in a generalised, noncomittal way, and no one is gonna deny the mountain of inequities in the way the socio-economic cookie crumbles, but what I don't see is these tritely expressed disaffections being converted into concrete action.
What I don't see is girls with guts and attitude. (I would've figured at the very least there'd be a bunch of militant students organising all-female smoking posses in Myeong Dong on Saturday arvos. But nada...)
So, either I've totally missed the point, and the sistahs have totally missed me, or else there are no sistahs, and Korea's womanhood is quite happy being chained to their makeup bags until death do them part.
Someone enlighten me please!
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Weird, I met her too. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: Re: feminism in Korea |
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| deffo wrote: |
They've fully and successfully industrialised. They've got planes, they've got trains, they've got automobiles. They've got Jesus, they've got bread, they've got wine. Plastic surgery is their most accomplished art form. But top of the list of "Great Evils of the Wicked Western World" that our gracious hosts have failed to fully ingest has to be, for my money, feminism.
In my whole time here (ooh, all of 1.5 years) I've met only one Korean woman (or man) whom I'd describe as a "feminist". Sure, there are plenty of privileged young ladies more than willing to complain about "the situation" in a generalised, noncomittal way, and no one is gonna deny the mountain of inequities in the way the socio-economic cookie crumbles, but what I don't see is these tritely expressed disaffections being converted into concrete action.
What I don't see is girls with guts and attitude. (I would've figured at the very least there'd be a bunch of militant students organising all-female smoking posses in Myeong Dong on Saturday arvos. But nada...)
So, either I've totally missed the point, and the sistahs have totally missed me, or else there are no sistahs, and Korea's womanhood is quite happy being chained to their makeup bags until death do them part.
Someone enlighten me please!
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But the insecure man-boys here like a woman who doesnt give them back-talk. No need to ruin it for them. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| Thank god too. No man hatrers in Korea other than the western chickc who are easy to avoid. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Thank god too. No man hatrers in Korea other than the western chickc who are easy to avoid.
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here we go again  |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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DW- for the last time. Just because someone hates YOU does not mean they hate all men.  |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Thank god too. No man hatrers in Korea other than the western chickc who are easy to avoid. |
You speak the truth. Its funny that white chicks that are on the top of the food chain in the west get a big wake up call when they wake up lonely in Korea. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: Re: feminism in Korea |
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| deffo wrote: |
They've fully and successfully industrialised. They've got planes, they've got trains, they've got automobiles. They've got Jesus, they've got bread, they've got wine. Plastic surgery is their most accomplished art form. But top of the list of "Great Evils of the Wicked Western World" that our gracious hosts have failed to fully ingest has to be, for my money, feminism.
In my whole time here (ooh, all of 1.5 years) I've met only one Korean woman (or man) whom I'd describe as a "feminist". Sure, there are plenty of privileged young ladies more than willing to complain about "the situation" in a generalised, noncomittal way, and no one is gonna deny the mountain of inequities in the way the socio-economic cookie crumbles, but what I don't see is these tritely expressed disaffections being converted into concrete action.
What I don't see is girls with guts and attitude. (I would've figured at the very least there'd be a bunch of militant students organising all-female smoking posses in Myeong Dong on Saturday arvos. But nada...)
So, either I've totally missed the point, and the sistahs have totally missed me, or else there are no sistahs, and Korea's womanhood is quite happy being chained to their makeup bags until death do them part.
Someone enlighten me please!
- deffo |
I don't equate feminism with development.
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| Korea's womanhood is quite happy being chained to their makeup bags until death do them part. |
Bingo. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: |
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You speak the truth. Its funny that white chicks that are on the top of the food chain in the west get a big wake up call when they wake up lonely in Korea.
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There are white chicks at the top of the food chain in the west??
oops.........musta missed my wake up call! i'm sooo lonely waiting here for my husband to arrive.... 
 what a joke! |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| Sure there are. Try getting a job as a university professor in Canada, if you don't have a vagina. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| University professors are top of the food chain? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| According to "Real Reality" they are. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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| shakuhachi wrote: |
You speak the truth. Its funny that white chicks that are on the top of the food chain in the west get a big wake up call when they wake up lonely in Korea. |
Beats waking up raped.
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| Sure there are. Try getting a job as a university professor in Canada, if you don't have a vagina. |
Full of crap, as usual. The last two profs my dad hired were men. In a feminist department of a left-leaning faculty.
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| I don't equate feminism with development. |
To do so would be to foolishly ignore the ongoing struggles of people of colour, homosexuals, natives, and too many others to count. There is no doubt though, that feminism is a major part of a civilisation's development. To deny that is to admit one's complete ignorance of feminism. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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"whank" "whank" "whank".
Don't you just love the language in this kind of oral BS?
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| "To do so would be to foolishly ignore.. |
Translation: "You don't have the right to judge feminism, because *I* said so".
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| ...the ongoing struggles... |
'Ongoing struggles'? With who? Themselves? Each other? Physical struggles? Romantic struggles? Are they all struggling together in a big pillow fight somewhere?
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| ...of people of colour, homosexuals, natives, and too many others to count. |
"too many others"? Like who? Left-handed lesbian ping-pong players? One-legged Arabic dentists? One-legged Arabic lesbian dentists who are left-handed ping-pong players of color?
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| There is no doubt though, that feminism is a major part of a civilisation's development. |
Ahh. So those so many civilizations out there that are not very feminist, don't count. You get to decide that they're not civilizations, because you say so. Convenient.
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| To deny that is to admit one's complete ignorance of feminism |
Nonsense. Feminism is inherently sexist. Feminism presumes that women have a monopoly on how equality between the sexes is to be achieved. I don't "deny" anything...I judge it as not equating with development, and certainly NOT with equality, because it is inherently sexist.
You don't get to deny me the right to make that judgement. |
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