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KoreanLifer
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: teaching ESL in Korea: did i waste my time! |
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back in Canada after 9 years in Kr teaching English and beating the streets looking for work for past 3 months.sent out 20+ resumes on jobs and not even an interview yet.my original work was in HUman Services/social services before i left Canada for Kr.this gives me the impresson that ESL experience is really a joke and is looked down upon back here in kanada.I even considered doing a B.Ed. at U of lethbridge and the admissions director there said my ESL experience was not relevant for admission into the program.
teaching ESL is fun and a great life but back in the real world it means nothing!!!!!!!!! |
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Homer
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| teaching ESL is fun and a great life but back in the real world it means nothing!!!!!!!!! |
That really depends what you did with it and what you did to improve yourself during that time as an ESL teacher.
9 years you say...well that gave you ample time to earn another degree (by correspondance) or to explore other work opportunities.
You could also have switched over to public school or universities in Korea to enhance your experience profile.
Then again, your ESL experience will only help you for a relevant job.
I mean, if you apply for a bank manager's job, experience as an ESL teacher will hardly be useful on your resume.
You spent 9 years abroad...did you learn Korean? There is a demand for this at the Federal government and for some provincial governments.
Consulting is also an option and there your experience abroad would count.
Some school boards would consider your experience if you a) have a Teachers permit (i.e. teachers college) and b) have good references from your employer(s).
Time is only wasted if we allow it to be my friend.
Best of luck on your job search! |
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Kimchieluver
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Why don't you get your B of Ed? |
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rapier
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The people looking at your resume are simply jealous that they didn't travel or do something similar, but have been locked on the career treadmill since they left school.
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Welcome back to the West: land of jobless economic growth. Why do you think so many people are coming over to Korea to teach ESL in the first place? |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| 9 years in Korea and still having to type a resume after all of that? Personally, I wouldn't be in Korea for that long without using it as an excellent financial opportunity to parlay into an investment portfolio and a business venture or two. If it was just for overseas/cultural exposure and resume building, I would have country-hopped every year or two. Oh, well. Different strokes. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Come back to Korea dude....you can teach until you're 50 here, apparently- probably older if you're a university prof. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
| 9 years in Korea and still having to type a resume after all of that? Personally, I wouldn't be in Korea for that long without using it as an excellent financial opportunity to parlay into an investment portfolio and a business venture or two. If it was just for overseas/cultural exposure and resume building, I would have country-hopped every year or two. Oh, well. Different strokes. |
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Badmojo
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:51 am Post subject: Re: teaching ESL in Korea: did i waste my time! |
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| KoreanLifer wrote: |
.this gives me the impresson that ESL experience is really a joke and is looked down upon back here in kanada.I even considered doing a B.Ed. at U of lethbridge and the admissions director there said my ESL experience was not relevant for admission into the program.
teaching ESL is fun and a great life but back in the real world it means nothing!!!!!!!!! |
I don't understand that at all.
Every year I get rejected by teacher's college because my teaching experience is given no weight. WTF? My TESOL certificate? No weight.
We might as well be flipping burgers over here. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
| 9 years in Korea and still having to type a resume after all of that? Personally, I wouldn't be in Korea for that long without using it as an excellent financial opportunity to parlay into an investment portfolio and a business venture or two. If it was just for overseas/cultural exposure and resume building, I would have country-hopped every year or two. Oh, well. Different strokes. |
I too was wondering about this
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| back in Canada after 9 years in Kr teaching English and beating the streets looking for work |
( years man!! i understand the point of your post about it not seeming to help you in your job searches BUT 9 Years!!?? After 3 years i had enough that it put me 5 years ahead of where i woulda been back home. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
| 9 years in Korea and still having to type a resume after all of that? Personally, I wouldn't be in Korea for that long without using it as an excellent financial opportunity to parlay into an investment portfolio and a business venture or two. If it was just for overseas/cultural exposure and resume building, I would have country-hopped every year or two. Oh, well. Different strokes. |
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I was speaking in an ESL context, I should add.  |
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: Re: teaching ESL in Korea: did i waste my time! |
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| Badmojo wrote: |
| KoreanLifer wrote: |
.this gives me the impresson that ESL experience is really a joke and is looked down upon back here in kanada.I even considered doing a B.Ed. at U of lethbridge and the admissions director there said my ESL experience was not relevant for admission into the program.
teaching ESL is fun and a great life but back in the real world it means nothing!!!!!!!!! |
I don't understand that at all.
Every year I get rejected by teacher's college because my teaching experience is given no weight. WTF? My TESOL certificate? No weight.
We might as well be flipping burgers over here. |
I assume you're Canadian?
I know a girl who had her BEd who was teaching here in Korea, and she is now having a hard time getting a full-time job. Right now she's on subbing lists, and yes, unfortunately, her experience in Korea means absolutely zip -- the subbing list means everything.
But getting rejected from teacher's college? That's a thoroughly depressing thought. I mean surely your teaching experiences -- bad or good -- should count for something. Not everyone who's meant to be at a destination travels the same road to get there. Since you're not the first person I've heard this same story from, it really makes me wonder about the levels of creativity and flexibility -- or lack thereof -- in the echelons of the education system in Canada. |
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anae
Joined: 13 May 2003
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| I took my B.Ed in Calgary and my EFL experience helped me to get in. I was also accepted at U of Regina. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Why would ESL teaching count something towards getting a job in Social Services/Human Resources in the West?
ESL is relevant towards education careers back home, etc, but those planning to do other things when they go back better plan accordingly.
Take a lot of money home and a realistic plan. Since you have a BA in HR, you might want to get an MA in that field, do an internship or get lucky and find an entry-level job in a related field. You have to start at the bottom.
One obstacle facing ESL'ers in Korea is inability to study while you're there. For example, if you were working in Europe you could get an MBA that would be respected back home. That's not really the case in Asia. I'm still unsure about all the correspondance courses. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Right at this moment there's a Korean bewailing the fact that after his nine years in Canada working in a office he still can't get a job at Samsung.
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