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peony

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: hollywood remake of korean movies |
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Il Mare, according to IMDB is going to star Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock, they've started filming and it will be released 2006.
Rumor mills have said that My Wife is Gangster will be remade, title is in the works + a farfetched (or not) rumor that Queen Latifah will play the title role
My Sassy Girl is going to be remade and released in 2006, directed by Gurinda Chadha.
do you think the remakes will do the originals justice?
has Hollywood lost its creativity that they have to remake foreign films?
and why is so it rare that they just release the originals and make people read subtitles? |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: hollywood remake of korean movies |
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peony wrote: |
do you think the remakes will do the originals justice?
has Hollywood lost its creativity that they have to remake foreign films?
and why is so it rare that they just release the originals and make people read subtitles? |
I doubt the remakes will do it justice. They rarely do.
Subtitled foreign films don't get released for to the big screen for one big reason. Starpower. Most foreign films don't have it. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: hollywood remake of korean movies |
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FUBAR wrote: |
Subtitled foreign films don't get released for to the big screen for one big reason. Starpower. Most foreign films don't have it. |
Actually I think it has more to do with an intolerance for subtitles and if it isn't English it isn't right - at least as far as the general american/canadian public is concerned. |
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peony

Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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they played shilmido or taeguki (i forget which one) in a big theater in nyc last year but no subtitles i guess it wasnt really geared to be shown to the non-korean public, i wondered what the point in that was. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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The film "Frequency" starring Dennis Quaid was remade in Korea as "����". It works both ways.
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
The film "Frequency" starring Dennis Quaid was remade in Korea as "����". It works both ways.
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
Before Japan and Korea dropped their movie/tv/music trade barriers, they remade each others movies. Witness the Japanese vs Korean versions of Ring. Oddly, I saw a Japanese movie at the Seattle film fest called The Happiness of Katakuris. It was a remake of a Korean movie called The Quiet Family. It's a kooky slapstick film. A family buys a quiet hotel and all the patrons keep dying. And they have to keep burying the bodies.
At the end of the Japanese movie, the director took questions. Clearly few knew it was a remake of a Korean film. Someone in the audience asked "where'd you get the idea for this film!"
Did he say "oh, it's a remake of a Korean film."
Nope. His answer was something like "Well, I get these ideas from life...". The director was Beat Takashi, one of Japan's best. Sad. Sad.
Some remakes are okay. The American Ring was pretty okay. The "Magnificent Seven" remake of the "Seven Samurai" is a high water mark. That said, the Hollywood remake of La Femme Nikita was beyond horrible.
All in all, I appreciate that Korean writers are making some large coin selling their scripts to Hollywood. |
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Billy Pilgrim

Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
At the end of the Japanese movie, the director took questions. Clearly few knew it was a remake of a Korean film. Someone in the audience asked "where'd you get the idea for this film!"
Did he say "oh, it's a remake of a Korean film."
Nope. His answer was something like "Well, I get these ideas from life...". The director was Beat Takashi, one of Japan's best. Sad. Sad.
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Actually, I think the director was Takashi Miike, the prolific Japanese director behind ONE MISSED CALL, AUDITION and the like.
I'm dying to see THE QUIET FAMILY and the remake, both of which are supposed to be quite good. The remake, I hear, is a cannibal musical, isn't it? Whereas TQF is merely a black comedy. Why can't I find them here?! |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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peony wrote: |
they played shilmido or taeguki (i forget which one) in a big theater in nyc last year but no subtitles i guess it wasnt really geared to be shown to the non-korean public, i wondered what the point in that was. |
It was shown in big cities with subtitles (taeguki) and now it is on dvd. Oldboy is in chicago, NYC, and LA now. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
what??!! come on... Hollywood is still pumping out great movies..
and as for remaking foreign films.. why not! I mean there are hundreds of film companies in hollywood.. its good for the korean film industry to remake korean movies.. they will be shown here at the cinema. and the stories are ok so western people can see them... |
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GregoryPeckish
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
All in all, I appreciate that Korean writers are making some large coin selling their scripts to Hollywood. |
I may be incorrect on this, but I am pretty sure that unlike the west, when a 'scripter' (their term) sells a story he is also selling the remake rights. This is the case for a lot of the industry here, few residuals, etc. Most of the money just gets kicked back to the production company.
And for anyone who is curious, that is MORE THAN TRUE for those westerners you see on TV here. Many of them are recognized, not only in Korea, but in Souteast Asia, China and Japan, yet for all those repeated airings they get squat in terms of pay and often shooting schedules that begin early and might end in the early evening or possibly the next morning.
But to put things in perspective, the Korean extras often make as little as 35000 a day. No transportation, and no lunch. Often with a shooting schedule just as grueling.
The industry here has a LONG way to go. There was an article a few months ago that stated that many of the crew on films here make as little as 500,000 won a month. And that most of the people at the top started this way, and it is seen as 'paying your dues'.
There is a lot about Korean film that I admire, but in general, the working conditions and pay are not among them.
Sadly, IMO, the fact that Korean film, music and TV exports did so well in the last year or so may end up hurting them. Because instead of using this as an opportunity, many in the industry and using it as an excuse NOT TO CHANGE ANYTHING, 'Why should we change? Look at the Han Wave!'
No one seems to get that waves come in and then go out! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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GregoryPeckish wrote: |
I may be incorrect on this, but I am pretty sure that unlike the west, when a 'scripter' (their term) sells a story he is also selling the remake rights. This is the case for a lot of the industry here, few residuals, etc. Most of the money just gets kicked back to the production company. |
It would not take me a lot to convince me this is the true case. I can well imagine writers in Korea basically sign away everything for their shot.
That said, at least it looks good on their resume and raises their profile. |
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SarcasmKills

Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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itaewonguy wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
what??!! come on... Hollywood is still pumping out great movies..
and as for remaking foreign films.. why not! I mean there are hundreds of film companies in hollywood.. its good for the korean film industry to remake korean movies.. they will be shown here at the cinema. and the stories are ok so western people can see them... |
Hollywood constantly pumps out crap these days. It's very rare that one of it's butt nuggets stand out as original and memorable. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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SarcasmKills wrote: |
itaewonguy wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
what??!! come on... Hollywood is still pumping out great movies..
and as for remaking foreign films.. why not! I mean there are hundreds of film companies in hollywood.. its good for the korean film industry to remake korean movies.. they will be shown here at the cinema. and the stories are ok so western people can see them... |
Hollywood constantly pumps out crap these days. It's very rare that one of it's butt nuggets stand out as original and memorable. |
Yeah, I would have thought that was obvious. Evidently Korean cinema is really something in comparison these days. Good for the Korean filmmakers! |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
SarcasmKills wrote: |
itaewonguy wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
P.S. Hollywood lost its creativity years ago. |
what??!! come on... Hollywood is still pumping out great movies..
and as for remaking foreign films.. why not! I mean there are hundreds of film companies in hollywood.. its good for the korean film industry to remake korean movies.. they will be shown here at the cinema. and the stories are ok so western people can see them... |
Hollywood constantly pumps out crap these days. It's very rare that one of it's butt nuggets stand out as original and memorable. |
Yeah, I would have thought that was obvious. Evidently Korean cinema is really something in comparison these days. Good for the Korean filmmakers! |
well lets not forget that hollywood has been making movies for almost 100 years!!
so sorry if hollywood is not producing a memorable film every time!
jesus.. there have been countless of memorable films from hollywood!
enough that in fact you couldnt watch them all in a life time!
I would say hollywood is pumping out atleast 50 memorable films a year!
but lets not forget that most of the films that are memorable or deliver fantastic performances dont always find a large distributor so goes un seen. also what is memorable to you.. may be crap to others!
but to say hollywood is crap! is just WAY WRONG..
I hope you are not trying to Say korean Cinema is on par with hollywood!
jesus.. korea makes a few movies that hollywood wants to remake and now Korean cinema is legendary? dude you guys need to stop drinking in your local HOF and listening to OLD ADOSI'S telling you how great korea is..
when was the last time any korean movie or director won an oscar?
or even directed a hollywood film?
chinese directors have!
indian directors have!
new zealand diectors have!
NOPE cant recall any koreans.. and IM a film graduate! |
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dogbert

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'll bet you loved "I, Robot". How many times did you go see it? |
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