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Public school workers-which level is best?

 
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Koreabound2004



Joined: 19 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Public school workers-which level is best? Reply with quote

What level do you think is best to teach in terms of time off?

I have heard that elementary public school positions require more class hours, and they generally get less time off...but I was thinking of giving it a go next year...however, I am getting good amounts of time off in my current high school position(I think I need a change though)

Middle school? Thoughts?

Maybe this is a silly question, but I thought it worth asking...
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the elementary public school teachers teach the least number of hours a week.

All us public\private school teachers are contracted to 22 classes a week.

BUT ... high school classes run 50 min, middle school 45 min, and elementary 40 min.

So elementary school teachers are, in effect, teaching 1/5 less classroom hours than high school teachers (and getting paid the same).
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Koreabound2004



Joined: 19 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..good points there.

I know in my HS contract, it says max 22 hours as well, although, I am actually only doing about 15 hours of classes....but I am intrigued by the idea of teaching elementary school next, and you have helped to make that decision easier!

Thanks!
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess that that 40 minutes would require more energy & planning than 50 minutes at the highschool level though.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreabound2004 wrote:

I know in my HS contract, it says max 22 hours as well, although, I am actually only doing about 15 hours of classes


Your doing good there. I teach around about 32 classes a week at my high school right now. 'Tis about at my mental and physical limit, but the overtime pay is pretty sweet.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I'd guess that that 40 minutes would require more energy & planning than 50 minutes at the highschool level though.


The general rule of thumb is, the older the students, the greater the mental work, but the lower the physical work.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure where that "general rule of thumb" comes from, but I respectfully disagree.

The younger students require more physical energy of the teacher, thats a given, but in my experience they also require more activities, more planning, & considerable spontaneity to keep them on task. Older kids, its easier to get a groove going.

Or maybe youre right. Teens are far smarter than their level of english & its a good challenge to keep them challenged.

I'm torn -- I like both age groups.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you SURE that you want to teach elementary kids? I've read your posts and you sound like you're pretty committed as a teacher. You sound like you'd fit well in my uni. Let me know if you might be interested! Don't know if there will be a postion coming up, but I could keep you in mind! I don't have a LOT of say as to who gets hired, but I could steer you in the right direction and put in a good word! When does your contract finish?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my middle schoolers. Especially the first graders. They still have a lot of positives of children. They tend to have a lot of energy and aren't so worried about their image. They also know how to behave (and if not someone will remind them).
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myself, in the last 5 years I've taught all levels from kindergarten on up to graduate school and I have to say they all have their pluses and minuses. It really comes down to you as a teacher, what level are you most comfortable and most effective with. I've finally found my "groove" with middle and high schoolers.

If you're looking at this ESL thing as a long term deal, I'd say go for it. Reach out and explore your options. It's one major benefit we ESLers have over regular school teachers "back home." Job flexibility and job mobility. We are not tied down. We can teach any age level, anywhere in the world.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Not sure where that "general rule of thumb" comes from, but I respectfully disagree.

Or maybe youre right.

I'm torn


That's just part of my family lore passed down though the generations. I'm now the sixth generation of my family to be a teacher. Guess you could call teaching my family curse.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Nice edit on my remarks.

Yeh you'll find your niche.
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