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Does your school keep you informed?
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Koreabound2004



Joined: 19 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Does your school keep you informed? Reply with quote

My school doesn't...anything that is news, will always be told to me last minute, and quite frankly I am tired of always being that last to know everything.

I asked my coteacher to give me a calendar so I would know of special school events and days off this semester...still waiting.

So now I ask my students what's happening, and they are my secret informants these days...pretty sad.

Now, when my coteacher decides to tell me something, I let him know that I already knew....really makes them annoyed...he is always puzzled at how I can possibly know these things. Shocked

Is that the way of these people in general...or is this the type of treatment a foreign female should expect?
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, that about sums it up for most of us, I would wager. We usually are the last to know. I found out one K-teacher was the leaving the day she left and the Boss mentioned that they had no interest in replacing her after a couple of days of me wondering when the new teacher was coming.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they don't. And I've told them repeatedly to please try to tell me more about what's going on.

Sometimes I use it to my advantage. They had an overnight mountain trip at the beginning of the year. I didn't want to go, and had heard about it, but was given no formal time or place information. Afterward, they were unhappy that I didn't go, but I kindly reminded them that someone needed to tell me.

That worked.
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oxfordstu



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always the last to know. I'm constantly out of the loop when it comes to, well, everything. I've missed the last two meetings because no one told me. I've really stopped caring. It's their responsibility to tell me of any announcements. Even when I ask, they don't seem to know. Of course, all of this could be easily solved with a white board in the office. But that would be too easy. Rolling Eyes
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to be reasonably pro active. I go to minder once a week and ask her what is going on. I also badgred her to give me a copy of the school calanedar and club activity dates. She just photocopied off the korean copy and I can take an educated guess from there. Also I take a look on the notice board for things that might require time off, for instance tests. So I'm reasonably well informed. It does helpt hat I have a rudiementary understanding of korean and can be on the look out for things. Then go and ask.

To be fair half the time the k teachers don't know what's going on.

CLG: Did you know the photocopy room had moved?
K teacher: No. really? where?
CLG: Just down the hall.

k teachers asks around but most of the other teacher have no idea. Afew seconds later one of the science teachers who's office is next to the said photocopy room points out the waygook is right.

CLG: Shocked
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully we have at least one teacher who will tell us a bit. Otherwise it's the same with us. I'm pretty sure that it's just a power technique.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Does your school keep you informed? Reply with quote

The hoarding of essential information is just one of those quirky things about Korean culture.

Korean bosses try to keep as much power in their hands as possible. Information is power; give information and you lose that power. Hence the reluctance upon the part of our bosses to inform us of any decisions or changes.


Koreabound2004 wrote:

So now I ask my students what's happening, and they are my secret informants these days...pretty sad.


Students are usually the best sources of information at schools. They don't have the powertrip of bosses or the fear of authority like our Korean co-workers.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last fall, the school changed the date for the start of the new term and forgot to tell me. Rolling Eyes

Peppermint: Hello? ( sleepy)
School: Hello, where are you?
Peppermint : Home. . . Where should I be?
School: You didn't know you had to teach today?
Peppermint: Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

After that, I demanded and got a school calendar. The thing is, accordiing to the K-teachers, my school is really disorganized anyway, and it changes a lot.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few weeks ago our school gave out the calender for the year. Last week when one of the English teachers had free time, I took out my calender and asked him to explain all the holidays, exam schedules and such. Now, I am set up until September.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The hoarding of essential information is just one of those quirky things about Korean culture.

Korean bosses try to keep as much power in their hands as possible. Information is power; give information and you lose that power. Hence the reluctance upon the part of our bosses to inform us of any decisions or changes.


JacktheCat is right. It has to do with that hierarchical social stuff.

It's infuriating as all get out. The only time it doesn't drive me nuts is when it works to my advantage. There are some office functions I don't like to go to, so when I'm told at the last minute that we are having one, I just say, "Oh, I wish you had told me sooner. I would have made arrangements to go. Well, maybe next time."
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Badmojo



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Does your school keep you informed? Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
The hoarding of essential information is just one of those quirky things about Korean culture.

Korean bosses try to keep as much power in their hands as possible. Information is power; give information and you lose that power. Hence the reluctance upon the part of our bosses to inform us of any decisions or changes.



Yes, it is about power. It's also about accountability.

Their thinking? We're not accountable to you. We don't have to tell you anything, especially things you need to know.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't let it get to you! Things are always done this way, in hagwons anyway!

You shouldn't really get upset unless they are bitching at you for not doing something they didn't tell you to do. Wink
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agraham



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Location: Daegu, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whenever a teacher deigns to tell me something important I feign ignorance even if I've already been told. That way they always assume I know nothing.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whenever a teacher deigns to tell me something important I feign ignorance even if I've already been told. That way they always assume I know nothing.


The more I read this agraham guy, the more of an idiot he becomes! You give the rest of us a bad name! I just hope you'll stop posting here once you leave in a couple of weeks. Not a moment too soon.
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