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How often do you call in sick? |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: How often do you call in sick? |
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I've called in sick only once in my 5 years here. Many of my colleagues also never call in sick. What's up with that?
Back home, I'd call in sick at least once every two months, if not more...
How 'bout you? |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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1st. year 12 sick days - twice in hospital for laryngitis.
2nd. year 1 sick day
3rd year 6 sick days - got smaked in the head, couldn't see muh for a week.
I have a few
Edited - as my original post makes me look like a very lazy person 
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lookingtoteach
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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At my old school, you had to be on your death bed to call in sick. I had laryngitis and bronchitis and literally couldn't talk at all, but he made me wait until my spare class to go to the doctor and get medicine. And even though the doctor wrote a note that I was to be off for the rest of the day, I still had to teach three more high school conversational classes before I went home. |
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Zark

Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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zero times in the last eight or nine years
I think the difference in the rate between here and a job back home - is that you realize that usually the burden of your absence is going to fall on a co-worker. So I usually just tough it out - come and get it done.
When I worked in Saudi (five of those years), your overtime came off the top and if it was a big day (sometimes nine hours) you might lose - in one day - $300 in overtime. Take those pills, buck up, and get to work! |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Never in my life. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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three times in nine years (twice last year), but I was so sick I couldn't even move. At my last job in Canada I came to work so sick for three days that on the fourth day my boss told me to go home or he would fire me for trying to get the entire office sick.
I really try to avoid calling in sick. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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My first year here I was ill with all sorts of colds and chest infections from the students. But I went to school each and every day because there's no sub at my small hagwon.
In my second year here I stayed up all night once and the next morning convinced a Korean ex-teacher to sub for me.
Then in my third year, this month actually, I've missed THREE DAYS due to illness. I am really sick.  |
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Confused Canadian

Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Zark wrote: |
I think the difference in the rate between here and a job back home - is that you realize that usually the burden of your absence is going to fall on a co-worker. So I usually just tough it out - come and get it done. |
Exactly. When you call in sick at a hagwon, someone's gotta sub your classes. More often than not, it's gonna be a foreign teacher rather than a Korean teacher (if the foreigner's still under contract hours, don't have to pay extra). At the schools I've worked at, everyone already had hectic schedules and didn't need to be subbing for me on their breaks. Also, I always hated it when I had something planned for my free period (i.e. marking or lesson planning) and then found out I had to sub. Just throws a wrench in the works.
Now that I work at a uni, the only people inconvenienced by me calling in sick are my students. However, I actually teach my make-up classes, but try to keep them to a minimum. Usually, the classes I have to make up at the end of the semester are for holidays and school festivals. Although I did take a week off when my son was born...
I have known people in the past that had no problem calling in 'sick.' I worked with one guy that called in sick every year on Super Bowl Sunday (well, Monday morning for us). Was always tempted to rat him out, but...
Not sure how many days for me exactly, but I know it's less than 5 sick days in the last 9 years. My second year I actually left a class in the middle to go and puke, cleaned myself up, and then went in to finish the class.
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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the_beaver wrote: |
Never in my life. |
Oooooh, you are a busy one.
I called in sick a couple of times my first year here. Once with bronchitus so bad I couldn't speak, and I did miss two classes when I broke my foot (missed my 7 and 8 A.M. classes, as I had been in the E.R. all night).
No, I am not a martyr- it's just expected here for you to tough it out. I personally think it is really unhealthy and shortsighted to expect people to work when they are sick, and to take a bunch of pills instead of bedrest, but when in Rome (and the Romans are paying you). . . |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Back home, I'd call in sick at least once every two months, if not more... |
Anyone besides me consider this an abuse of the system?
In my 10 years I never called in sick, even when my throat was so swollen I could barely speak. |
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Badmojo

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've never been sick enough yet to miss a day.
Even if I were feeling really terrible, I'd probably still go to work. No worries. Sit on the chair and hand out word search puzzles or tell them to draw.
Beautiful.
How many sick days do you have in your contract? I think I get three. |
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Koreabound2004
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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Back home, I'd call in sick at least once every two months, if not more... |
Anyone besides me consider this an abuse of the system?
In my 10 years I never called in sick, even when my throat was so swollen I could barely speak. |
Back home at my job, I was entitled to three sick days, and three personal days per year. Sick or not, I took all of them, and I didn't consider it to be be abusing the system. After all, it's not like they would reimburse me or give me bonuses for not taking all my sick days. If I am entitled to paid days off, I will take them for sure.
In Korea, with my public school job, I am entitled to 15 paid sick days. I have taken 3 so far. I don't really care if Koreans come to work when they are sick, I am not Korean, never will be, and I will stay home if I need to. I just call in, and I don't feel guilty. I also don't go to the hospital when I am sick with a cold, as there is no need for that. Just because the Koreans do it, doesn't mean you have to follow suit. You are not Korean, I will say it again. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Koreabound2004 wrote: |
Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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Back home, I'd call in sick at least once every two months, if not more... |
Anyone besides me consider this an abuse of the system?
In my 10 years I never called in sick, even when my throat was so swollen I could barely speak. |
Back home at my job, I was entitled to three sick days, and three personal days per year. Sick or not, I took all of them, and I didn't consider it to be be abusing the system. After all, it's not like they would reimburse me or give me bonuses for not taking all my sick days. If I am entitled to paid days off, I will take them for sure.
In Korea, with my public school job, I am entitled to 15 paid sick days. I have taken 3 so far. I don't really care if Koreans come to work when they are sick, I am not Korean, never will be, and I will stay home if I need to. I just call in, and I don't feel guilty. I also don't go to the hospital when I am sick with a cold, as there is no need for that. Just because the Koreans do it, doesn't mean you have to follow suit. You are not Korean, I will say it again. |
I agree that I am not Korean, and so don't have unquestioningly follow the tyranny. But, where I teach (a uni) we are expected to make up every class missed, which is a huge burden to the students (in terms of scheduling) and also burdensome to me.
In a different program on our campus, a colleague of mine was asked for a written doctor's note for missing 2 classes. My boss is not that unreasonable, but the expectations are clear. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Only when I'm too ill to get out of bed, which is extremely rare. I haven't called in sick once in my three years here. |
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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Koreabound2004 wrote: |
In Korea, with my public school job, I am entitled to 15 paid sick days. I have taken 3 so far. I don't really care if Koreans come to work when they are sick, I am not Korean, never will be, and I will stay home if I need to. I just call in, and I don't feel guilty. I also don't go to the hospital when I am sick with a cold, as there is no need for that. Just because the Koreans do it, doesn't mean you have to follow suit. You are not Korean, I will say it again. |
Yeah, I've taken three days off since I signed on at a public school. Why? Because I can. There's been absolutely no drama from anyone over it.
I only missed one day in two years at hagwons, because I'd lost my voice, but they gave me so much grief it just wasn't worth it. The bar-studs actually tried to dock me TWO days pay over it!  |
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