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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Teachers Busted |
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I hope they destroy them. Seriously. Time to take these illegals, destroy them financially, and kick them out. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Why the heck would anyone pull a coat over their heads?? That's a Korean thing. Heck, I'd give the lens a big finger.
Great... so they can bust a few guys who turned in bogus degrees. Now start cancelling the long-term multi-entry tourist visas for Canadians, and I'll be impressed that they're trying to do something. We all know that's where 70% of the problem lies... illegal teachers who are teaching here on Tourist Visas. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Why the heck would anyone pull a coat over their heads?? That's a Korean thing. Heck, I'd give the lens a big finger.
Great... so they can bust a few guys who turned in bogus degrees. Now start cancelling the long-term multi-entry tourist visas for Canadians, and I'll be impressed that they're trying to do something. We all know that's where 70% of the problem lies... illegal teachers who are teaching here on Tourist Visas. |
i would have to agree that the majority of Illegals are here on tourist visas. however, as for "where the problem lies" I think my biggest concern is about security checks. I am far more worried about people coming over here and working around children if they have criminal recods than if they are missing a degree. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Why the heck would anyone pull a coat over their heads?? |
Maybe so no one can tell if they are indeed foreigners or just random Koreans who work at immigration that are part of a protracted campaign to redeem their pride and trying to clean up their shite public rep for having swiss cheese visa policies and hapless enforcement of them? Given the govt's history of heavy-handed manipulation of the media, I'd take anything they spit out with a grain of salt.
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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One of the guys who were caught according to the article is with the U.S. military...the article does not say if he is active duty or a civilian working for the military...just...U.S. military. |
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:52 am Post subject: |
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One of the guys who were caught according to the article is with the U.S. military...the article does not say if he is active duty or a civilian working for the military...just...U.S. military. |
According to a Korean friend the article says that the guy used to be U.S. military.
I don't read Korean well enough to tell myself. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Great... so they can bust a few guys who turned in bogus degrees. Now start cancelling the long-term multi-entry tourist visas for Canadians, and I'll be impressed that they're trying to do something. We all know that's where 70% of the problem lies... illegal teachers who are teaching here on Tourist Visas. |
Get over your anti-canadian thing already. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: |
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SuperHero wrote: |
Derrek wrote: |
Great... so they can bust a few guys who turned in bogus degrees. Now start cancelling the long-term multi-entry tourist visas for Canadians, and I'll be impressed that they're trying to do something. We all know that's where 70% of the problem lies... illegal teachers who are teaching here on Tourist Visas. |
Get over your anti-canadian thing already. |
I agree with Derrek and Im Canadian. I have no solidarity with people just because they are Canadians. If a teacher is caught teaching illegally, it threatens my and my family's livelihood. Canadian, Ameican, English, whatever. It makes legal teachers look bad and has consequences we cant forsee. They SHOULD cut the Canadian tourist visa down to a month. Its ridiculous as it stands now. 6 months!? WTF do you need a 6 month visa unless you are illegal? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Now start cancelling the long-term multi-entry tourist visas for Canadians, and I'll be impressed that they're trying to do something. We all know that's where 70% of the problem lies... illegal teachers who are teaching here on Tourist Visas. |
The 6 month visa waver is a mutual agreement between Canada and Korea. Koreans get 6 months in Canada visa free as well. There are, no doubt, many many more Koreans who take advantage of the 6 month visa waver than Canadians in Korea. Where do you think most of the XXX Korean web porn is made and hosted? Canada.
Your middle and upper class Koreans would be the first to howl if a unilateral move by Korea put their 6 months in Canada in jeopardy. |
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funplanet

Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Good point about Canadians getting 6 months just by showing up at the airport....
immigration needs to do some serious grilling and they do not have to give a full 6 months..as I understand that is the maximum...does the law say they must stamp 6 months?? I do not think so...most immigration officers in other nations have the discretion to grant UP TO THE MAXIMUM...
the rules for Americans, I suppose, alleviates part of the problem...we get 30 days without a visa and 90 with one (yeah, I know it is multiple entry but "Why are you coming to Korea every 3 months if you are NOT ON BUSINESS???"
it comes down to stupid rules and no enforcement |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
Its ridiculous as it stands now. 6 months!? WTF do you need a 6 month visa unless you are illegal? |
Well, there are a lot of Canadians who have Korean grandparents. As Canadian snowbirds like to spend the winter months in Florida, I can imagine a lot of Korean grandparents like to spend their summers with their ex pat children and grandchildren in cool, clean Canada. By the same token, there are a lot of Canadians of Korean heritage that might like to go back to the mother country and spend time there. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Well, there are a lot of Canadians who have Korean grandparents. As Canadian snowbirds like to spend the winter months in Florida, I can imagine a lot of Korean grandparents like to spend their summers with their ex pat children and grandchildren in cool, clean Canada. By the same token, there are a lot of Canadians of Korean heritage that might like to go back to the mother country and spend time there. |
It's all about reciprocity the koreans know that if they cut down on the 6 month tourist stay for canadians then then the canadians will do the same thing to koreans wanting to visit canada. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:22 am Post subject: |
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funplanet wrote: |
Good point about Canadians getting 6 months just by showing up at the airport....
immigration needs to do some serious grilling and they do not have to give a full 6 months..as I understand that is the maximum...does the law say they must stamp 6 months?? I do not think so...most immigration officers in other nations have the discretion to grant UP TO THE MAXIMUM...
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It has nothing to do with "stamps" and "maximum". Once you have gained entry to the country it's pretty much automatic. You don't need to spend six months...but you can spend UP to six months without a problem. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Spotted it on the news last night, the American was ex- military and had been working for 5 years in Hogwans with fake documentation, that's all I bothered to watch so no nothing further. |
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