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tomwaits

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Location: PC Bong
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: Going To Taiwan! From Inchon. |
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I just want to go and look around for a few days./
I know you need a visa. Anyone done it and know where to go in Seoul?
Thanks. I will look for a job there but I/m not too worried about it so a 30 day visa would be fine.
Also I have heard you need to show a bank statement to them?
And being a spoiled Canuck will they let me in for 6 months even though I am broke!?  |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Going To Taiwan! From Inchon. |
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tomwaits wrote: |
I just want to go and look around for a few days./
I know you need a visa. Anyone done it and know where to go in Seoul?
Thanks. I will look for a job there but I/m not too worried about it so a 30 day visa would be fine.
Also I have heard you need to show a bank statement to them?
And being a spoiled Canuck will they let me in for 6 months even though I am broke!?  |
Visa needed? Depends what country you are from. The U.S....no visa is needed. Canada...I don't know but I'd say no visa needed. You'll get a landing visa when you show your outbound ticket.
Lived in Taipei for three years and and familiar with it. Lot's and lot's and lot's of ESL jobs. You are better off going in person to the schools and apply. If a person really wants....they can land a teaching ESL gig in Taiwan in a few days.
You also need a medical check...blood, AIDS, etc. done in country which the schools usually pay. Taiwan was also running criminal records checks a few years back.
It's a 50/50 toss up on Taiwan...like it or not...depends on you. I think the majority would take Taiwan over korea however...working conditions, housing, food, nightlife, general quality of life is better than korea it seems. But Taiwan is crowded! And zillions and zillions of mopeds!
It all depends on your expectations, wants and needs. Taipei is HOT! And then some!
I found the people to be more friendly and outgoing compared to koreans.
But....you teach in a language school...the Chinese work you to death it seems! They want their money's worth out of you! But they are fair and don't screw you around as much as korean hakwon owners do. |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Waits, your best bet is to get a 60 day visitor's visa. This can be obtained in Hong Kong, but I don't know about in Korea.
Hellofaniceguy said it right, but teaching ESL in Taiwan doesn't really outdo Korea. The jobs are a fluke, the contracts a fiasco. You'll run into much, much more double dealing over there, lack of workers' rights. The housing blows, unless you want to pay a mint. You've got to pay for just about everything besides, unless you share an apartment. The people are as outgoing and warm as toads, although they ARE decent folk. The nightlife is for the drunks and slouches. The idea of being in an Asian country is that you're there to prove yourself to them and not vice-versa when it comes to learning English or understanding your culture itself, all of which to them are considered a slight. They lie like devils and will ekk out the most from you. The food is usually rancid with oil and outside exhaust fumes(though hey, I've eaten it a lot.) And they'll fire you at the drop of a hat.
Yet you say you're going there with little money? Go to a hostel, namely The Taipei Hostel, right near Taipei Main Station. They've got dormitory rooms for NT300 a night, less per week. But I have to warn you. If you're low on money and going for just 30 days, you might end up stuck. Sooner or later you'll have to fly out, and there's not guarantee you'll get enough cash within that time frame.
But there's a gal named Vivian near Tiapei Main Station who lands people temp jobs. She pays by the week.
I wouldn't go to Taiwan though. I consider this a business nowadays, and in Taiwan, you'll lose any which way. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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A few years ago you'd get 15 days upon arrival (for a CDN anyway), could get a 30 day landing visa for about 45-50 bucks; and a 60 day visitor visa was available then at the office in Seoul. I forget the building the "Taipei Mission" office was in, but it was across from the big Kyobo building at Kwanghwamun station. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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jajdude wrote: |
A few years ago you'd get 15 days upon arrival (for a CDN anyway), could get a 30 day landing visa for about 45-50 bucks; and a 60 day visitor visa was available then at the office in Seoul. I forget the building the "Taipei Mission" office was in, but it was across from the big Kyobo building at Kwanghwamun station. |
Brits get (up to) 30 days on arrival, free of charge. Not sure about US right now, I think there is a fee, which is double that for other nationalities. |
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buddy bradley

Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Location: The Beyond
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ideally, you'd want to get the five year multiple-entry visa, which you can only get in the States. With that, you can work illegally without having to sign up for Chinese lessons, but you have to leave the country every six months, which is good, as Hong Kong is an hour's flight away and tickets are cheap. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:32 am Post subject: |
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buddy bradley wrote: |
Ideally, you'd want to get the five year multiple-entry visa, which you can only get in the States. With that, you can work illegally without having to sign up for Chinese lessons, but you have to leave the country every six months, which is good, as Hong Kong is an hour's flight away and tickets are cheap. |
These are available too from the Taiwan Mission near City Hall (and the best sandwich bar in Seoul). |
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tomwaits

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Location: PC Bong
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks people ---good info. I just want to do a 3-day 2 nights type thing----not stay for good.
Rock-- can it be worse than ROK. ? Not like the housing or the empoyers or the "ambience" are so lovely in Korea you can't give it up. The nightlife you mention sounds the same.
Point taken though. I'm sure the Taiwanese can be nasty at times. And this "fire you at the drop of a hat " alarms me a bit.  |
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Zark

Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Tomwaits,
My experience in Taiwan was quite different from Rock's. I lived in Taipei - and taught in Nangang (a 'burb on the eastern side of town) for two years.
I found it to be a much friendlier place, the people quite cordial and friendly. Never had a problem with my contract - and it was always paid to the penny. Housing is expensive - and as a result - I saved only about 75% of what I had been saving in Korea. BUT, I found the quality of life soooooo much better.
I'm in Korea now - to maximize savings - but if money wasn't an issue: I'd be much happier in Taiwan. I consider Taiwan to be a good compromise between the money of Korea and the quality of life (but no money!) of Thailand.
BTW, the countryside is beautiful! If you get a chance rent a car and drive around the island - it only takes a couple days. The east coast is dramatic with sharp cliffs dropping to the sea - and most of it is uninhabited - many fantastic beaches you can have all to yourself. |
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