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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Korean architecture and character Reply with quote

the basic premise is that the architecture of a country says something about the character of the people. For example:

The same old concrete slabs: cardboard cutout company workers. Look! we made cement!
the new steel and glass: we're hip and into all things western, but don't get too cosy in my country. And keep the shades drawn.
paradise regained: the old traditional style reclaimed, the idealized past of freedom and folk wisdom, truly Korean
The wedding castle: getting married is a fairytale come true until the 2nd kid or the hot new secretary comes along
the perpetually unfinished: we'll get there sooner or later.

Any other suggestions?
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thorin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myeongdong Cathedral


Seokjojeon, Deoksugung


hmm, looks familiar.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made the observation on this board last year that Korean government architecture, Youngsan station, Sejong center, et. al.,reminded me a lot of the architectural renderings of Albert Speer.
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Blind Willie



Joined: 05 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes
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trigger123



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Location: TALKING TO STRANGERS, IN A BETTER PLACE

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean architecture and character Reply with quote

steroidmaximus wrote:
the basic premise is that the architecture of a country says something about the character of the people. For example:


Quote:
The same old concrete slabs:

urban drudgery piled high in birmingham. a testament to the city planning of the 70's and the damp drizzly days that typify the uk, but in a good way.

Quote:
the new steel and glass: we're hip and into all things western, but don't get too cosy in my country. And keep the shades drawn.

funky manchester, leeds or newcastle. if you've got money, get y'self a bottle of becks my san'. a hymn to the new god of city living.

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paradise regained: the old traditional style reclaimed, the idealized past of freedom and folk wisdom, truly Korean

quaint towns in hampshire, ye olde deepest devon, fudge box wrappers and red telephone boxes. the 50's, or at least days when it was hot and we had lashings of ginger beer. perfick'.

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The wedding castle: getting married is a fairytale come true until the 2nd kid or the hot new secretary comes along

newlyweds in the village church for the first time since... well for the first time...

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the perpetually unfinished: we'll get there sooner or later.
urban re-generation, re-claiming inner-city brown sites for the next generation of grad prof's... tony's cool britannia in action baby!

y'see, i can twist any, ANY, generalisation you make about korea and show you how it exists in my country. the same buildings exist in england, but i see them as all positives.
but how come you see the same examples as an indicator of korea's negative side?
always.
put simply, your observations and conclusions are poor. you must be bored. or prejudiced. or both.

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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have me confused with another poster. Most of what I say about Korea IS positive; today I'm sick of looking at the same old buildings, no matter what city I'm in, there all the same. And I think they do say something about Korea in general.

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but how come you see the same examples as an indicator of korea's negative side?
always.
put simply, your observations and conclusions are poor. you must be bored. or prejudiced. or both
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
I made the observation on this board last year that Korean government architecture, Youngsan station, Sejong center, et. al.,reminded me a lot of the architectural renderings of Albert Speer.



You mean grandiose? Korea's has revamped a lot of its train stations recently, and I like the results. Unfortunately, the residential areas are terrible. If I go to Belgravia I know I am in classy area. A quick glance around Apgujong, and Kangnam disappoints.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean architecture and character Reply with quote

trigger123 wrote:
y'see, i can twist any, ANY, generalisation you make about korea and show you how it exists in my country. the same buildings exist in england, but i see them as all positives.


Of course, England boasts some real eyesaws(concrete nightmares in sprawling council estates) itself, but on average residential areas in England are a lot more pleasing to the eye than their Korean counterparts.
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ticktock



Joined: 14 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
JacktheCat wrote:
I made the observation on this board last year that Korean government architecture, Youngsan station, Sejong center, et. al.,reminded me a lot of the architectural renderings of Albert Speer.



You mean grandiose? Korea's has revamped a lot of its train stations recently, and I like the results. Unfortunately, the residential areas are terrible. If I go to Belgravia I know I am in classy area. A quick glance around Apgujong, and Kangnam disappoints.


Belgravia's overrated, you forget the rat infested and grey polluted Victoria just next to it. Rolling Eyes
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ticktock wrote:

Belgravia's overrated, you forget the rat infested and grey polluted Victoria just next to it. Rolling Eyes


Do you realise you are adopting a positon that is barmy? Belgravia is an extremely classy area. This is widely accepted. Are you djbackdoor's sock?
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kimchikowboy



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A related site:

http://www.orientalarchitecture.com/faqindex.htm
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ticktock



Joined: 14 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
ticktock wrote:

Belgravia's overrated, you forget the rat infested and grey polluted Victoria just next to it. Rolling Eyes


Do you realise you are adopting a positon that is barmy?

Belgravia is an extremely classy area. This is widely accepted.

Are you djbackdoor's sock?



It��s about as barmy as you thinking that I��m taking a position at all, was just commenting that you��re not really making a much of a comparison. If you��re going to make such silly comparisons, at least mention somewhere truly worth mentioning (shame on you!)

Widely accepted as in you��ve heard about it??? Sure, Belgravia��s a classy area but take it from someone who��s lived around there, there are classier places in London that you��ve probably not even heard about.

How should I know? You seem much more intimately acquainted with this djbackdoor��s clothing than I am.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
I made the observation on this board last year that Korean government architecture, Youngsan station, Sejong center, et. al.,reminded me a lot of the architectural renderings of Albert Speer.


Wow, I'm so glad someone else has noticed that about Sejong. Every time I walk by the Sejong center I get that creepy feeling too. "Hmmm if this was Nazi Germany, it looks like a building designed to let people know if you were hauled in there in handcuffs, you'd never come out". I always refer to it as the "Ministry of Torture Building".

Have you heard the mayor is talking about building some new symphony/ballet/opera house. To replace the massive symphony/ballet/opera house complex they built last decade in Gangnam? *head shake*

When I came here as a tourist pre world cup, I asked my Korean friend why there were building a world cup stadium when they had this huge huge Olympic stadium. Didn't they play soccer there in 1988? In north america, we'd reuse that. Like Toronto wouldn't build a new stadium for any future Olympics. They'd use Skydome.

My Korean friend answered "Because the world has already seen the Olympic stadium".

Ah.

But you want sad architecture, move to Seattle.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know anything about what I call the Walt Disney fairytale architecture...you know, the buildings that look like something from Snow White and the 7 Dwarves?

I like it. My Korean friends tell me it is traditional Korean, but I think it is a copy of stuff out of children's books.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Anyone know anything about what I call the Walt Disney fairytale architecture...you know, the buildings that look like something from Snow White and the 7 Dwarves?

I like it. My Korean friends tell me it is traditional Korean, but I think it is a copy of stuff out of children's books.


Yes, they are traditional Korean buildings.

Traditional Korean love motels.
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