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Kiddirts · Joined: 25 Jul 2003

Okay, after so many times of being looked at in the gym shower and seeing my 14 year old male students with their hands on each other's legs and having males come on to me, in a massaging, effeminite, affectionate kind of way...it all suddenly makes sense. For the most part, Korean women are difficult to harness for the typical Korean male. I've met many guys who were virgins into their 30s...being that the whole dating fiasco is tretchery for the young alpha male, they imagine what may be easier for them, just as the toughest hardest human beings on the planet (criminals in jail) turn to when they cannot get a woman. If it's not there, they start being and thinking kinda strange...just my thoughts...

Crois · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:56 pm Post subject:

Doesn't seem like a bad thing that you think all Koreans are Gay. More women for you i suppose.

Sorry just got to ask, Why were you in a shower with a group of 14yr olds?

little mixed girl · Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Location: shin hyesung's bed~

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TheMrCul · Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Korea, finally...

I think you're spot on little mixed girl. Kiddirts you can't go to another country and append your ideal of where the "gay line" is - as it will always be different for different countries - about the 30 year old who has never had sex, well, remember in Korea sex before marrige is usually frowned upon. Traditionally, guys are taught that friends are men - physical contact between the sexes is taboo, so, you can be much more physically affectionate with men instead (except to the level of being gay) - does that make sense everyone?

kylehawkins2000 · Joined: 08 Apr 2003

Who exactly is doing the 'frowning upon' where sex before marriage is concerned? Probably the older folks. I think you'd be hard pressed to find mid-twenty year old males that don't want to have sex until they are married.....and in my opinion the women are a whole lot less conservative then they are made out to be. Promiscuity might not be common but I think most young women are willing to have pre-marital sex with the right person.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land

anae · Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: cowtown

Though there is some truth to the idea that premarital sex is frowned upon, it probably doesn't account for the male virgins you find today. A lot of Korean men, particularly those approaching 30, went to sexually segregated middle and high schools. Being kept away from the opposite sex at these critical times when western young men and women learn to interact probably accounts for the a good majority of the male virgins that you encounter. After never spending time with girls after the age of 10 or 11, suddenly they are expected to go out and date?! IMO it is culturally created shyness.

As for the touchy-feeliness, I think it is cultural. Not only is OK and normal to touch your same-sex friend, you are way more comfortable being around the same sex after being separated from the opposite sex for the last 6+ years. As well, since gayness is denied there is also no threat to your sexuality by being close to another person of the same sex.

hellofaniceguy · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!

A few of the posts here are way off....
koreans waiting until they marry to have sex! Men having to wait until they are in their 30's.... wrong answer! Check the records for the number of teenage and 20 something abortions!! And adoptions. Korea leads the world in adoptions. Meaning thousands of korean babies and children are adopted by families overseas. So, where are these babies coming from? Why all the love hotels? Read the newspapers, almost everyday in the news are stories about the young girls working in the red light districts, the young girls getting "involved" with their korean male teachers. Look at all these young men working in the "booking rooms." Booking rooms are all over and they are for sex. So... if a guy does not have any sex with a woman, he's what, going to look toward a male?! Man, so much sex going on in korea, it would keep a ship afloat!

Sarah-in-Korea · Joined: 20 Aug 2003

Very interesting indeed,

The reason that most males in Korea share a physical closenes is because there is no fear of being labelled a homosexual. This is due to the hilarious notion in Korea that homosexuality does not exist! You ask ANYONE if there are any gays in Korea and you will get a bewildered look and a definate NO! This is SOOOOOOO different to how things are back home for us. We come from a society where homosexuality is a part of life and a choice bestowed on each individual. Consequently, people are constantly aware of it and take steps to ensure that their orientation isn't misread. You will NEVER see a high school rugby rep sitting with his hand on his mates leg, or two girls walking hand-in-hand (I would feel totally weird if my best friend suddenly started holding my hand). I know when I first got here I was amazed at the enormous proportion of "lesbians" in Korea until I learned the truth. It also helps explain why some guys here just look so effeminate. Back home we would say "Man, that guy looks gay" (please don't be offended if you are gay!! I'm just referring to the stereotypical look of spunk and sophistication that some gay guys have!) but here they just think he looks pretty, since it's impossible to look a way that doesn't exist.

I wish there was this level of closeness amongst peers in my culture, but it would take a drastic turn-about of attitude and the elimination of the acceptance of 10% of the population to get it.

Ciao

kangnamdragon · Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

sakamuras · Joined: 21 Jun 2003

And what prestigious university did you develop that keen sense of logic from?

desultude · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:30 pm Post subject:

Maybe things are just more progressive here in Daegu than in Seoul (Ha!) but my students don't have any problem believing that there is homosexuality in Korea. And they know gay students and talk about them. On the streets downtown I have seen crossdressers, in very bad ajuma style. The other night, in the little neighborhood close to our school, we saw a gay male couple being quite open in public. And the difference between normal same sex affection and their behavior was clear.

"Gay" behavior is learned. We all learn how to signal our sexuality at a very eary age, in very subtle ways. And we learn it in ways specific to our cultures. That's Cultural Anthropology 101. Ain't no mystery.

Butterfly · Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait

Gwangjuboy · Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England

weatherman · Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea

Yeah, last night for a time at the bar I visit, there was a weird homo erotic-ness going on. After the barmaid did her little show of dancing and juggling the bottles around, which she did oh so sexily, the dudes sitting near me, wanted the bartender to dance and do a little stripping. He did, as a good sport, but the way these men took to it was just plain weird. They wanted more, so one of the guys went behind the bar and did his little show too. The men all loved it. It was funny in a way, but not something to be so enthusiastic about.