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Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader

 
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject: Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader Reply with quote

Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader : North Korea and the Kim Dynasty


How all has read this book?

If you have, read on. If you haven't (and you have an interest in those zaney book-han sarram) then you really should.

A good friend of mine gave this book to me a few months ago (yes, it might just actually take you that long to read it) and although it is a thick one, it's honestly one of the best reads out there on the DPRK.

Much more indepth than Micheal Breens regurgitated ,
this book goes full stream into the history and back stories of the Northern Hermits. Honestly, after reading Breens book I was resigned to the fact that there was probably not going to be any really good source out there for the average reader of N. Korea. This book though proved me wrong.

My hopes were also high for Comrades and Strangers but after a few hundered pages (ok, the whole book), it just never did get interesting.

The only other book i'd truely recomend is
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It really is a great, gut-wrentching book.


Any thoughts on these or even some others?


*sorry, one disclaimer; I think almost everyone and their dog has read Breens book "The Koreans". It's kinda been done to death on this board. i was hoping that there might be something new out there, specifically in regards to the DPRK.
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bignate



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader, a really intelligent book on the North, however when I used it as a reference, many regarded it with disdain, since *shock* it actually had something positive to say about the North and the recent softening towards a market economy.

I really enjoyed Aquariums as well. It makes one realize how horrible the conditions under a totalitarian system can be. Another prison memoir that I have come across is one written by Lee Soon-ok, entitled Eyes of the Tailless Animals: Prison Memoirs of a North Korean Woman. Another engrossing look at the gulag system in the DPRK - it tells of a woman who was accussed of misapropriation of government supplies.

Another book that shows a contrasting image of the North is Bruce Cumings' North Korea: Another Country- though once again criticized for his view on the DPRK, Cumings examines the issues outside of the context of the 'Axis of Evil' debate in order to describe the situation in a more openminded and ultimately useful way.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a more openminded and ultimately useful way



I'm curious what this means in relation to NK. Could you elaborate a bit?
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bignate



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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a more openminded and ultimately useful way



I'm curious what this means in relation to NK. Could you elaborate a bit?


What I am proposing here is that the debate and the commentary related to NK is often hoplessly negative, focusing on the 'Axis of Evil' position and ultimately resulting in the stance that there is no other way to deal with NK outside of hostility or direct confrontation.

Authors such as Cumings and Martin, while not ignoring the inherent problems with NK, expand the debate on how to deal with the regime outside of a strictly hostile methods. Their views look outside the polemic and often onesided view of Western media - which I think is useful for the sake of comparison and contrasting as well as for understanding a less aggressive and less dangerous solution to the problems that are present in this situation.

I don't find the use in examining a problem from the tacit stance of ultimate evil vs ultimate good and that the only solution available is armed conflict to bring about regime change. I think that many people's perceptions and opinions about NK are based upon this hoplessly negative and hostile view - these authors - who have based their opinions on infinitely more study of the situation than most, can introduce people to a more 'open minded' examination of the problems facing the Korean Peninsula than what they are exposed to in the media. That, I feel is useful in the context of NK.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think bignate is on the ball here (haven't known him to be off the ball yet Wink )

I know zippo, but surely it will take a "wise" approach, as mentioned, to talk to a place like NK.
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I wanted to pick up "Comrades and Strangers" as it appeared very interesting. But I balked at the 27 bucks. Perhaps not as great as it looked, according to OP.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you meant Benedict.
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