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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: I bowed to a pigs head today |
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I went to a dojang grand opening today, and as is the custom, they had an altar of friut, dduk, and makoli, along with the pigs head. Now, I don't mind bowing to a smiling pig, even with 30 or so people critiquing my style. However, only three days ago I did the exact same thing at a funeral for the father of a friend, only with the portrait of the father replacing the pigs head. My questions are, Is the significance of my bows the same in each case? and, Do both altars represent fortune, either in this life or the after?
Doesn't one seem a bit more paganistic than the other? |
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canadian_in_korea
Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| My husband's friend opened his own "gym" and invited us....we went...ate some food....waited until they brought the pig head...put money in the mouth ...bowed...then we left..I think they eat the head afterwards. I'm pretty sure that pigs mean money here...if you dream of a pig...it means money....its also why you can buy those little cell phone jewels that are a pig....well that's what my husband said....its means money...success...good fortune....that kind of thing. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| my school had that when they made a new drive way. yes, a new drive way! |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I bowed to a pig's head last weekend on a hiking trip with my husband and the ministry he works for..... there were 70 other hikers with us, but other than the high up guys, we were the only ones who had to bow -- guess they thought a foreigner would bring the ministry (department actually) better luck this year  |
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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Good for you. Today, I farted in the car and made my girlfriend sick. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah! I did that. I got a free towel out of it too. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Good for you. Today, I farted in the car and made my girlfriend sick. |
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| Yeah! I did that. I got a free towel out of it too. |
uhhh.... |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Please don't use the word Dojang with Hapkido. Dojang is used for Hapkido and Taekwondo on occassion but I am sure your Hapkido place uses the word Chay-yuke-gwan. Dojang is from the Japanese Dojo. That's why it is OCCASSIONALLY still used to refer to the rooted in Japanese traditions martial arts (Taekwondo and Hapkido and Gumdo) but it's -really- better if you use the Korean word. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I did that big-head bowing thing with my old Hapkido teacher for his friend's new bar that was opening. 'Tis a small world. |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Cedar wrote: |
| Please don't use the word Dojang with Hapkido. Dojang is used for Hapkido and Taekwondo on occassion but I am sure your Hapkido place uses the word Chay-yuke-gwan. Dojang is from the Japanese Dojo. That's why it is OCCASSIONALLY still used to refer to the rooted in Japanese traditions martial arts (Taekwondo and Hapkido and Gumdo) but it's -really- better if you use the Korean word. |
I respectfully disagree here. My kwanjangnim (and all others that I know) refer to our Haedong Gumdo "Training Hall" as a dojang and "chae-yuke-gwan" interchangeably. Looking at the roots of it, however, there is "do" as in "way/method" and "jang" as in "hall", it is simply a "training hall" and that it bears any resemblance to "dojo" in Japanese would be from the same Chinese character roots. "Chae-yuke-gwan" simply means an "exercise place" but does not carry the "do" witch is what gives a martial art its art. |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I have known quite a few Koreans to get upset at the term dojang, and where I train we call it a Jeonsugwan ������. I've also seen other places (including Taekwondo) use the term Bae-um-teo �����. (Learning place). I bet if you ask your gumdo guy he'll say he prefers ü���� |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| I'll ask him tonight. I have not heard of those other two terms you mentioned though. Thanks for the info. |
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