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sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Allah hu Akbar yelled the veiled lasses Reply with quote

For you anti-Israel folk...and you are plentiful in this forum, let me just assure you that if you are backpacking in the Middle East, NO ORTHODOX JEWISH WOMEN would ever blow you up.

Seriously, more likely, if you fell off a bicycle near an evil Israeli "settlement" (town), they'd make sure you were bandadged and that your mother in Melbourne or Winnepeg knew that you were all right. They would most likely make you call your mother.

SOME Arab women, however, might blow you up.


Two women open fire on tour bus in Cairo
By Paul Garwood, Associated Press Writer | April 30, 2005

CAIRO, Egypt -- Two veiled women opened fire on a tour bus in a historic part of the Egyptian capital Saturday and one of them was killed in a gunbattle with security guards, authorities said.

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Hours earlier, a suspect in an April 7 bomb attack died in a police chase when an explosive he was carrying blew up as he jumped off a bridge.

Seven people, including four foreigners, were injured in the explosion, which occurred by a bus station near an exclusive hotel frequented by foreigners and behind the downtown Egyptian Museum.

The Interior Ministry said Ehab Yousri Yassin, an Egyptian suspected in the April 7 bombing at a tourist bazaar, was killed after he jumped from the bridge during a pursuit, setting off the explosion he was carrying.

Less than two hours later, two veiled women opened fire at a tour bus in the Sayeda Aisha part of old Cairo, an area rich with historic mosques and cemeteries.

Three people, including one woman, were injured and at least one of the attackers was killed, Egyptian Health Minister Mohammed Awad Tag Eddin told reporters. The minister said it was not known if the injured woman was the second shooter.

Police, who had initially reported the second incident as an explosion, said both women had been killed by security forces in the area. The differing accounts could not be reconciled.

The attacks came less than a month after a suicide bomber killed two French citizens and an American when he detonated a homemade bomb near the Khan al-Khalili market on April 7.

Remains of a body, covered with newspapers, were seen beneath the bridge a few minutes after the initial explosion was heard across downtown Cairo on Saturday afternoon.

Security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said two Israelis -- a man and a woman -- an Italian woman and a Russian man were injured. Eddin, however, told Nile News television that three Egyptians were injured along with two Israelis, one Swiss and one Italian.

The hands and face of one of the injured -- a man with reddish-blond hair who was lifted onto a stretcher -- were covered with blood. Sitting upright, he held his hands to his face as paramedics loaded the stretcher into an ambulance.

On a nearby curb, two Westerners checked their wounds; the young woman's left arm was bloodied and the man sitting next to her appeared to have sustained leg injuries.

Though the bus station is used almost exclusively by Egyptians, the area is between the Ramses Hilton hotel frequented by foreigners and the Egyptian Museum, one of the country's main tourist sites. Normally, the station is teeming with people heading home from work in the mid-afternoon, but the blast happened on a holiday weekend.

Initially, police said they believed a car had exploded, but no vehicle debris could be seen in the area. A senior policeman on the scene and some witnesses said a bomb was thrown from the bridge above to the street below. Egyptian security officials rarely speak on the record.

"I saw very loud explosion after what looked like a man throwing a bomb down from the bridge," said Mohammed Hasan Mohammed, 45.

Scores of police, including riot officers in helmets and carrying submachine guns, kept away the crowds who gathered to watch, standing on benches and potted plants to get a view.

In a sign of the tension and uncertainty, police singled out a few youths to inspect their bags.

During the 1990s, Islamic insurgents mounted several attacks on tourists in a bid to cripple tourism and bring down the government. The government has been anxious to limit the damage of recent attacks to Egypt's tourism industry and had said the April 7 market blast was the act of only a few.

In October 2004, militants detonated bombs in the Sinai resorts of Taba and Ras Shitan, killing 34 people and wounding more than 100. One bomb destroyed a wing of the Taba Hilton Hotel.

Police said the mastermind was a Palestinian resident of Egypt who was angry with Israel. More than 10 Israeli tourists were among the dead.

The last major burst of violence in Cairo was in 1997, when gunmen attacked a bus of German tourists, killing 11, several months before massacring tourists at a pharaonic temple in the southern city of Luxor in a shooting that left 64 dead, including the six gunmen.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racist twit wrote:
Here is yet another of my crude and cackhanded attempts to convince you (by highlighting the extreme and heinious actions of the few) that all arabs are worthless inferior beasts.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundubuman's math. 2 women=500+ million others.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Sundubuman's math. 2 women=500+ million others.


That's right. Math is out there in the realm of LOGIC - something that's very much an alien concept, eh Somedumbbum?
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Turd wrote:
Here is yet another of my crude and cackhanded attempts to convince you (by highlighting the extreme and heinious actions of the few) that all arabs are worthless inferior beasts.
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I didn't read that in his post at all. While all you anti-Israel folks spew on and on about the evil Israel, the Arabs also are doing their part to make sure no peaceful accord is made. It hardly smacks of racism....BUT

Countdown to bob showing up and declaring sundubuman racist: 5,4,3...
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wannago, where was there any mention of any Israeli's being killed? Oh wait, there wasn't.

Totally irrelevant to the peace process. Just some nutty Egyptians killing some tourists because tourism props up the decripit, corrupt Egyptian gov't that is supported by the United States.

Sundubuman, surprise surprise, forgets to mention that and instead brings religion into it.
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sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to find the hole in this math equation.

The chances that anyone of us getting killed by an Arab or a Moslem while hanging out in a bar in Bali, on a train in Madrid, at a tourist site in Egypt, at a tall building in New York compared to getting killed by a Jew or Israeli in the same places is about a gazillion to zero.

How is that racist?? It's the TRUTH!!!!!!!!

Get your heads out of your bums people.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
wannago, where was there any mention of any Israeli's being killed? Oh wait, there wasn't.

Totally irrelevant to the peace process. Just some nutty Egyptians killing some tourists because tourism props up the decripit, corrupt Egyptian gov't that is supported by the United States.

Sundubuman, surprise surprise, forgets to mention that and instead brings religion into it.


What kind of terrorists were they, Bum? Gee, let me guess.
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have an apologist for terrorism, bucheon bum, and an apologist for Israeli state oppression, sundubuman. What motivates you two is completely beyond my comprehension.
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
wannago, where was there any mention of any Israeli's being killed? Oh wait, there wasn't.

Totally irrelevant to the peace process. Just some nutty Egyptians killing some tourists because tourism props up the decripit, corrupt Egyptian gov't that is supported by the United States.

Sundubuman, surprise surprise, forgets to mention that and instead brings religion into it.


What kind of terrorists were they, Bum? Gee, let me guess.


sundubuman mentioned Israel in the first line of his OP. Bucheon Bum was correct to point out that these terrorsist were not protesting Israel, but rather their own government, which is not only corrupt, as BB says, but is one of the world's prime offenders in the realm of torture ... and consecuently, one of the popular destinations for captives which the US military has decided to make part of their "rendition" program.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob do you think the terrorists are protesting torture?

You telling us that they wouldnt' do such stuff if they came to power?

Yes those who luv Bin Laden have shown themselves to be great defenders of human rights. Rolling Eyes

just for the record:

Khomeni was far more brutal than the Shah. We could expect the same should those who luv Bin Laden come to power.
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
wannago, where was there any mention of any Israeli's being killed? Oh wait, there wasn't.

Totally irrelevant to the peace process. Just some nutty Egyptians killing some tourists because tourism props up the decripit, corrupt Egyptian gov't that is supported by the United States.

Sundubuman, surprise surprise, forgets to mention that and instead brings religion into it.


What kind of terrorists were they, Bum? Gee, let me guess.


sundubuman mentioned Israel in the first line of his OP. Bucheon Bum was correct to point out that these terrorsist were not protesting Israel, but rather their own government, which is not only corrupt, as BB says, but is one of the world's prime offenders in the realm of torture ... and consecuently, one of the popular destinations for captives which the US military has decided to make part of their "rendition" program.


OK, got it. But let's not let's not pretend these are 'just some nutty Egyptians'. What, they just broke out of the insane asylum?
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shakuhachi wrote:
We have an apologist for terrorism, bucheon bum, and an apologist for Israeli state oppression, sundubuman. What motivates you two is completely beyond my comprehension.


You are absolutely right.

Both sides think that you have to be for one and against the other. They do not realize that the Christian, Western, civilized world can rightly detest both.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bob do you think the terrorists are protesting torture?

I think they might be protesting corruption ... and torture is part of that.

From the New York Times ...

April 27, 2005

Riot Police Crack Down on Day of Anti-Mubarak Protests Across Egypt

By NEIL MacFARQUHAR

AIRO, April 27 - Egypt's fledgling movement for political reform tried to extend its reach nationally today by organizing demonstrations in 14 major cities from Aswan to Alexandria, but a major deployment of riot police and scores of detentions drastically minimized the effort.

In Cairo, more than 30 truckloads of riot police blocked the downtown streets around the Supreme Court. In a swift maneuver, plainclothes officers dispersed the first demonstrators to arrive by forcing taxis to halt, shoving the protestors inside and ordering the drivers to move along.

In response, some 200 participants, including a smattering of well-known Egyptian writers, filmmakers and politicians, regrouped on the front steps of the nearby Journalists' Syndicate. They stood hemmed in by the police for more than four hours, chanting anti-government slogans including their trademark catchphrase of "Kifaya!" or "Enough!" in Arabic. This refers to their primary demand that President Hosni Mubarak step aside after 24 years in power.

"The government is trying to give the impression that we have freedom here, that the movement is small because few people are interested," , one of the organizers of the Cairo demonstration, Tamer Wagih, said.

"I am not saying that Kifaya is a movement that everyone wants to join, but if they let us march freely in the streets there were be at least 100,000 people here," Mr. Wagih said.

The Egyptian Movement for Change, the formal name of the group that has come to be known as the Kifaya Movement, was formed last December to demand that Mr. Mubarak not seek a fifth term in presidential elections this September.

In February, Mr. Mubarak announced that the elections would be open to multiple candidates, rather than the previous system of a one-man referendum. Since then, Kifaya has expanded its demands to include the right of any Egyptian to run for president.

The aim of the first nationwide demonstrations today was to voice that demand and others, including calling for an end of the state of emergency laws that have suspended many civil rights since 1981.

Kifaya organizers said that there were small gatherings in every city where protests were planned, except in Marsa Matruh, on the western Mediterranean coast, where the police surrounded the homes of members to prevent them organizing.

In Suez, the southern port of the Suez canal, the police moved in among the small gathering of demonstrators to disperse them, detaining 20, according to a summary of the day's events on the Kifaya Web site.

In Benha, just north of Cairo, the heavy police presence prevented all but 75 demonstrators from gathering, and organizers finally gave up and told everyone to join the group downtown. "Why stand there with just 75 people, my voice would not reach anybody," one of the organizers , Ibrahim al-Hadari, said by telephone from Benha.

More than 100 people were detained around the country, while the demonstrators in Cairo remained an extra two hours and threatened to stage a sit-in until police assured them that all detainees had been released.

Any attempts to move off the steps of buildings or to unfurl banners in the street were quickly stamped out by a phalanx of police, with even the most senior security officials in Cairo involved in the show of force.

The protestors spent all four hours chanting and singing, with one man holding up a puppet of Kermit the Frog seemingly chanting along with them. Aside from slogans like "Down, down with Mubarak," the crowd made their dislike of the United States clear with numerous chants including "Guantánamo! Enough! Abu Ghraib! Enough!"

Protestors also mocked a well-known Egyptian television journalist whose unusual six-hour interview with President Mubarak played in prime time over the past three nights, much of it centered on his military role as an air force general in the 1967 and 1973 wars against Israel. The journalist asked endless questions like "How come you never know fear?"

The program was seen as the opening salvo in the president's campaign for re-election. Yet in the end, Mr. Mubarak failed to confirm that he will be a candidate , although he is widely expected to both run and to win.


Mona el-Naggar contributed reporting for this article.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet Pol Pot spoke out about corruption before he came to power.

liberal terrorists? Nah. If they got into power U can be sure they would be using the iron maiden or the like.

but how did terrorists all of a sudden become anti corruption crusaders? Rolling Eyes
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