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globalnomad



Joined: 06 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: Socializing with the Locals Reply with quote

Hi,

I didn't put this on the Dating thread because I Thought it wasn't quite "On -Topic" with what was being discussed.

I 'm assuming that most of you that post here on this site are between 23 and 29 years old, and especially when the subject of dating and hanging out comes up.

So I would like to ask if you have any info or comments about dating or socializing for the 35 to 45 year old crowd?

Or is this just unheard of?

Besides the culture clash: Korean dating a Westerner. (and the language barrier)

Is there a generation/age clash?

Some cultures are pretty relaxed about a 30 something man with a 20 something woman, other cultures are very negative about such things....any opinions? Comments?

Do the generations mix at the hang out spots, or is it pretty much like the 20 something singles scene hangs out together with their crowd and the older crowd has other hang out places? Or just stays home?

How about aesthetics: Are we talking Pepsi generation looks/body and clothes, style and fashion to be considered worthy of playing the game....or is it not so plastic and superficial?

Totally fit and athletic / Normal Body / Stocky / Over weight

Does a great personality Trump the above mentioned body descriptions?

Comments/Opinion
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globalnomad



Joined: 06 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOOO

No opinions....comments...

Life ends at 29...for expats in S. Korea....or they get married and stay at home...

Come on people.....NO Opinions???!!!!
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agraham



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Location: Daegu, Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 30 (31 Korean age). I dated a 30-year old here. The problem you're going to run into with K-girls over 25 is that they're quickly approaching their best-before date. They're being hassled by thier mothers to get married on a daily basis. If you are a no-prospect hakwoner or not likely to get married you're out to make room for elusive samsung junior exec as soon as the initial thrill wears off for her. I'm both a no-prospect hakwoner and fan of the single life, so that was that.
You could date under-25's but that's a bit gross isn't it? Also, they tend to be a bit boring IMHO. Also, unless you're dating bar hoes they're going to be inexperienced in dating which is just a pain if you know what I mean.
As for me, my current is 25 and well traveled, so just right. I'm kind of immature which helps too.
So your best option is to get with divorcees of which I'm told there are more all the time although I've never met one myself.
I've been told the thing to do is go to one of those 70/80 night clubs where the 30/40-somethings hang out. Apparently you will be mobbed by divorcees. Cougars as we call 'em at home.
As for aesthetics: very important here. If you want to date younger people you gotta look younger. Go to the gym. Eat rice. Take being in a Korea as a chance to get in shape. If you're bald forget it. You might as well be hunchbacked.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="agraham"]I'm 30 (31 Korean age). quote]

What is this with korean age?!?!?! I am not flaming you...it's just that...that....I get tired of hearing this BS! You're born when you are born!
Korean age?!? BS!
Korean passports and korean government issued ID cards DO NOT have two ages listed! Only one age and that is the age you were born...the day your mother gave birth.
Koreans celebrate birthdays on the day one was born as well...and the big birthday..the first birthday is also celebrated big time in korea. That also is celebrated on the day the child was born...not the "korean age!"
Do you see korean immigration asking koreans what their korean age is for ID reasons?!
Just my rant...pay no attention to me...cause I don't!
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Panda_Dude



Joined: 06 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

agraham wrote:
If you're bald forget it. You might as well be hunchbacked.


What if you simply shave your head everyday?

Is this a dating faux pas in South Korea?
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canadian_in_korea



Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="hellofaniceguy"]
agraham wrote:
I'm 30 (31 Korean age). quote]

What is this with korean age?!?!?! I am not flaming you...it's just that...that....I get tired of hearing this BS! You're born when you are born!
Korean age?!? BS!
Korean passports and korean government issued ID cards DO NOT have two ages listed! Only one age and that is the age you were born...the day your mother gave birth.
Koreans celebrate birthdays on the day one was born as well...and the big birthday..the first birthday is also celebrated big time in korea. That also is celebrated on the day the child was born...not the "korean age!"
Do you see korean immigration asking koreans what their korean age is for ID reasons?!
Just my rant...pay no attention to me...cause I don't!


I agree that the Korean age is very confusing....my sister in law explained to me when the age changes...but why I have no idea. I've noticed that mothers will usually give you both ages of their children...it would be interesting to know why there is a Korean age...I understand being 1 when you are born (even though a pregnancy only lasts around 40 weeks)...but why another birthday on the new year..? If anyone knows please explain.. Razz
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globalnomad



Joined: 06 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx agraham...

ONE person with some helpful info..before the thread went on a tangent

Sure would Like some more opinions, comments, advice......

By the way...yes agraham under 25(just because their under 25) would not be what I would be looking for I don't know about gross, but most probably would be boring.....age doesn't really define anything for me, I'm more of a personality and life experience (have it or don't) person myself....but generally both are seriously lacking in the under 25 crowd (generally).


So Expat bars....are for the 20 something crowd....???

70/80's clubs for the 30 something crowd and get mobbed by women in heat carrying marriage licenses...???


ANYTHING Else??
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agraham



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Location: Daegu, Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canadian_in_korea wrote:

I agree that the Korean age is very confusing....my sister in law explained to me when the age changes...but why I have no idea. I've noticed that mothers will usually give you both ages of their children...it would be interesting to know why there is a Korean age...I understand being 1 when you are born (even though a pregnancy only lasts around 40 weeks)...but why another birthday on the new year..? If anyone knows please explain.. Razz


When you are born you are one. On the new year you are two. Next new year you are three. Continue until you die.

And yes, it is possible to turn two the day after you are born.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Socializing with the Locals Reply with quote

globalnomad wrote:
Hi,

I didn't put this on the Dating thread because I Thought it wasn't quite "On -Topic" with what was being discussed.

I 'm assuming that most of you that post here on this site are between 23 and 29 years old, and especially when the subject of dating and hanging out comes up.

So I would like to ask if you have any info or comments about dating or socializing for the 35 to 45 year old crowd?

Or is this just unheard of?

Besides the culture clash: Korean dating a Westerner. (and the language barrier)

Is there a generation/age clash?

Some cultures are pretty relaxed about a 30 something man with a 20 something woman, other cultures are very negative about such things....any opinions? Comments?

Do the generations mix at the hang out spots, or is it pretty much like the 20 something singles scene hangs out together with their crowd and the older crowd has other hang out places? Or just stays home?

How about aesthetics: Are we talking Pepsi generation looks/body and clothes, style and fashion to be considered worthy of playing the game....or is it not so plastic and superficial?

Totally fit and athletic / Normal Body / Stocky / Over weight

Does a great personality Trump the above mentioned body descriptions?

Comments/Opinion

Not sure where to begin on this.

But not everyone is between 23-29. Many of us are 30s and above. I know many who are 30s who have a VERY active dating life.. often times it seems like MUCH more than those who are in their 20s.

Do people of different ages intermix.. yeah, definetely. I forget my age whenever I go out. I hang out with people in Korea who are often 10 years younger than me.. and other nights hanging out with people who are 10 years older than me. I never noticed any kind of division or difference..

In regards to women.. mostly I date all women younger than me..but not by choice. I've actually met attractive women around my age who DIDN'T want to date me because I appeared younger than them, even when I wasn't. (I've had that happen in the West too).
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm approaching my mid-thirties here and am realising that I've been dating the same aged girls for the last ten years. I get older, but they stay the same age.

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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever made the comment to "forget it" if you are bald is totally wrong. I have seen bald guys here end up with some very attractive Korean females. The truth is that Koreans don't seem to shut-out bald men as much as Western women do. From what I understand, the only girls who do seem to shut bald guys out are the under 25 crowd.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
I'm approaching my mid-thirties here and am realising that I've been dating the same aged girls for the last ten years. I get older, but they stay the same age.

My exact same experience.. my dating range gets larger and larger.. I can still date all the women I dated when I was in my mid-20s and now also the ones in their late 20s/mid 30s who wouldn't dream of dating me when I was in my mid 20s.

Gets better and better every year. Dating pool gets larger and larger and larger and larger and larger.
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globalnomad



Joined: 06 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx for the comments...I was beginning to think Dave's was going to let me down...but once again you guys/gals come through....thx a lot...

Hope your comments continue....


Now since there seems to be life for us 30/40 somethings in the dating world....

Do the aestetic/ fashion (pepsi generations) values still apply....

Suit and tie...or designer clothes to go out.....

fashion and being well dressed = Attractive

Dress for power and success = attactive

Or can one dress casual, comfortable and still play the game, or is not dressing up seen as scruffy and unattractive?

You know...

Suit and tie...or designer clothes to go out..

VS

Jeans and a Polo shirt


No matter or Big Difference?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late in the game but here goes.

If by socializing you mean friends and community activities then I do those things. However I have been since 1997, am married to a Korean woman and have a great relationship with my in-laws. That changes things compared to your avg teacher who is here for 1-2 years.

What do I do?

Well I have several long time friends here (Korean men and women) that I met through my wife or as former students (I taught a couple of Housewive classes and a couple of adult classes as a sub for 3 months) or as former clients (I do consulting). We hang out on occasion and go out for dinners. I have a poker night that pops up every now and then with some dudes from the neighborhood.

I also play Changi (Korean chess) every sunday in a nearby park (or inside if it rains) with the old harabogis. I have gotten to know most of them and this has done wonders for my Korean. they also have amazing stories to tell as most of them lived through the Korean war.

That would sum up the extent of my socializing with Koreans here in Busan.

Cheers
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globalnomad



Joined: 06 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"aesthetics" ..sry someone posted before I could edit...
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