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Building maintence in Korea - a rant

 
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Building maintence in Korea - a rant Reply with quote

A whole bunch of public school teachers in my city live in the same building but work at different schools. The building is reasonably new and most of us are the first or second tennants of said apartment which the city hall owns and lets the schools' rent out.

My level of apartments have major problems of water leakage. My neighbor's apartment has a 30 centimeter brown spot where there is obviously water leaking through. I have a trail along my kitchen wall too. Water runs clear down the wall in my other neighbors apartment during monsoon season when the drains get too congested. The city government has come around tut tutted but hasn't actually done anything about it.

My apartment has been outlet problems for 6 months but the guys come around do some bandaid solution. Declare the problem fixed and as soon as they are out the door again outlet shorts out. So now I have to run an extenstion cord across my kitchen to power my fridge because the problem isn't always aware to them.

So friday morning my alarm didn't go off because of some stupid power cut and I'm standing in my bathroom come shower stall waiting for my hot water to come on. All I'm greeted with is a cold water.

On further investigation I find that my boiler isn't showing any signs of life. Call my neighbor and she is spitting tacks as she has only one outlet going (fourtantly to the fridge) and her lights.

Fourtantly there's a sauna on the way to school with a plentiful supply of hot water for a bargain price of a few thousand won.

I leave my neighbors trying to coax the fuse to reset itself but they were unsucessful. So I go into to school to investitgate it. I'm the lucky one who gets to go back to the apartment with my schools' maintence guy and see what is going on.

"You have to push this reset button," he says looking at me like I'm idiot. I told him we had done that repeatedly.

"oh well perhaps you shouldn't be running so many appliances". The power outage happend during the middle of the night when no one was using the electricty.

"Well the only reason for this could be water being somewhere' well we've told you how much this building leaks.

Last night the same fuse blew with no one home in two out of three of the apartments. We've unplugged everything that's connected to that fuse and it's still not reseting. It's sunday and none of us have any hot water nor washing machines and no likelyhood of anything until at least tuesday.

So why oh why do these people leave little problems unattended until they become huge messes? Grrrrrrrrrr.

Suppose I should be lucky this isn't winter. Rolling Eyes
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm of the belief Koreans don't do maintenance. They just wait until a building has fallen to bits and nothing works anymore. Then they knock it down and build a new one.

If they put as much effort into maintenance as they do into checking gas outlets......What is with that? They're knocking on my door every other month!! "Gas-uh! Gas-uh!".
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pollyplummer



Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Location: McMinnvillve, Oregon

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: i hear ya Reply with quote

Do you guys have Korean co-teachers at your school or a specific manger in charge of you? Whenever I have problems, I tell my co-teacher who often forgets and doesnt report my problems. I continue to bring it up to him every day until something gets done. Yes, you feel like a nag, but they get the idea. Heck, they should help you out. They're your school. They're Korean. They speak Korean. They should be able to call the right people who can get the job done. So yeah, I feel for ya, cause I have these things go on from time to time.

You have a bunch of public school teachers living in the same building? I think that sounds cozy!! Do you guys eat together? I kind of wish I had other foreingers living in my building. At least you guys can all talk about this stuff together and maybe try to help each other out.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foreigners living in dodgy housing placed in by the government? Oh, you must be living in a different Korea. Dae-Han-Min-Guk, Dae-Han-Min-Guk.

The only time I ever lived in dodgy housing was when I worked for the government. Otherwise, my housing has never even been middle class, but it has always been error free unlike your situation now. Sorry to hear about all of this.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: i hear ya Reply with quote

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I'm of the belief Koreans don't do maintenance. They just wait until a building has fallen to bits and nothing works anymore. Then they knock it down and build a new one.

Yeah. I'm contsantly at my school going, umm this isn't working too well perhaps someone should fix this before a bigger problem happens. Repair man comes 'look it works now' so therefore no problem. Evil or Very Mad

Like I said this building is less than two years old so this sort thing just shouldn't be occuring.

pollyplummer wrote:
Do you guys have Korean co-teachers at your school or a specific manger in charge of you? Whenever I have problems, I tell my co-teacher who often forgets and doesnt report my problems. I continue to bring it up to him every day until something gets done. Yes, you feel like a nag, but they get the idea. Heck, they should help you out. They're your school. They're Korean. They speak Korean. They should be able to call the right people who can get the job done. So yeah, I feel for ya, cause I have these things go on from time to time.
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Yup first thing firday we all came in and complained to our 'handlers' so the maintence guy from my school came around to sort out the problem. But one of the problems with building maintence is unless its not working there is no problem.

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You have a bunch of public school teachers living in the same building? I think that sounds cozy!! Do you guys eat together? I kind of wish I had other foreingers living in my building. At least you guys can all talk about this stuff together and maybe try to help each other out.

There are some good and bad points to it. Obviously if you have a problem there is at least someone to complain to. Sometimes it has too much a dorm room feel to the place. But occasionally some of us eat together or go out together.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just tried the fuse and it's back up again. ahsa!
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
just tried the fuse and it's back up again. ahsa!

Yay!! Congratulations and Welcome to the 21st -- er, the 20th... no, the 19th Century!
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did not happen to me, but one of my coworkers.

She lived in a giant office tel building. Perhaps thirty floors and at least 20 office tels on each floor. Most of the people lived in that building, did not use it for an office.

The turned off the water for A MONTH! That's right, no water for a whole month.

What could possibly happen that would make a building not have water for a month...
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Mr. Literal



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Location: Third rock from the Sun.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: Building maintence in Korea - a rant Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
A whole bunch of public school teachers in my city live in the same building but work at different schools. The building is reasonably new and most of us are the first or second tennants of said apartment which the city hall owns and lets the schools' rent out.

My level of apartments have major problems of water leakage. My neighbor's apartment has a 30 centimeter brown spot where there is obviously water leaking through. I have a trail along my kitchen wall too. Water runs clear down the wall in my other neighbors apartment during monsoon season when the drains get too congested. The city government has come around tut tutted but hasn't actually done anything about it.

My apartment has been outlet problems for 6 months but the guys come around do some bandaid solution. Declare the problem fixed and as soon as they are out the door again outlet shorts out. So now I have to run an extenstion cord across my kitchen to power my fridge because the problem isn't always aware to them.

So friday morning my alarm didn't go off because of some stupid power cut and I'm standing in my bathroom come shower stall waiting for my hot water to come on. All I'm greeted with is a cold water.

On further investigation I find that my boiler isn't showing any signs of life. Call my neighbor and she is spitting tacks as she has only one outlet going (fourtantly to the fridge) and her lights.

Fourtantly there's a sauna on the way to school with a plentiful supply of hot water for a bargain price of a few thousand won.

I leave my neighbors trying to coax the fuse to reset itself but they were unsucessful. So I go into to school to investitgate it. I'm the lucky one who gets to go back to the apartment with my schools' maintence guy and see what is going on.

"You have to push this reset button," he says looking at me like I'm idiot. I told him we had done that repeatedly.

"oh well perhaps you shouldn't be running so many appliances". The power outage happend during the middle of the night when no one was using the electricty.

"Well the only reason for this could be water being somewhere' well we've told you how much this building leaks.

Last night the same fuse blew with no one home in two out of three of the apartments. We've unplugged everything that's connected to that fuse and it's still not reseting. It's sunday and none of us have any hot water nor washing machines and no likelyhood of anything until at least tuesday.

So why oh why do these people leave little problems unattended until they become huge messes? Grrrrrrrrrr.

Suppose I should be lucky this isn't winter. Rolling Eyes


Sounds like a major fire hazard to me. I'd gather the troops and flat-out insist on being moved. That building is just an accident waiting to happen.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So why oh why do these people leave little problems unattended until they become huge messes?



This is truly one of the great unanswered questions about life in Korea.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And sure enough this morning there is no hot water to be had....
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Mr. Literal



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
And sure enough this morning there is no hot water to be had....


You'll have plenty of hot water once some major appliance shorts out and starts a raging fire.

I don't think you're safe there.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Literal wrote:
crazylemongirl wrote:
And sure enough this morning there is no hot water to be had....


You'll have plenty of hot water once some major appliance shorts out and starts a raging fire.

Is that literally true? I mean, let us imagine that the leak in her kitchen wall or one of the others happens to short-circuit the fridge, and then sparks and flames leapt out of the outlet (just guessing here). And then those flames spread throughout the unit and the whole building. Would the tenants really be able to heat water in, say, pots and kettles and then use it to bathe with? I think it wouldn't work very well, because it would be hard to find a flame that was low enough and steady enough, and then they'd have to find some tongs or such to hold the pots. And they'd probably forget to bring the soap and shampoo, and it all takes time, and they'd have to go to work at some point. But wait a minute -- today's a holiday, isn't it? Hmm. Okay, maybe it would work.

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I don't think you're safe there.

Nor do I.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went into school today and explained the problem to my maintence guy (he's on his miltiary service but having spent 10 years in the states has flawless english).

He came around today and has acknowledged that, yes there is a problem.

The city government is now having a meeting to decide if they should call an electrician. Rolling Eyes As the schools and city hall are playing the blame game over who is responsible for all of this, as city hall owns the building but we are employed by the schools.

The funny thing is all four teachers on this floor have all completed one contract and re-signed so we have saved the city at least 4 million in airfares alone so there must be some money somewhere to pay for this work.

My school may eventually just call in an electrican and then let them squabble over the bill later. At the moment we are at 5 days with nothing done about this.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans and thinking rationally....I never thought to use them in the same sentence.

It has been getting warmer lately and quite humid. For some strange reason all of the fans in the classrooms have covers over them. Today I went into all my grade 3 classrooms and removed the covers, took apart the fans and got the students to wash the fans off. Put them back together and started teaching my lessons.

The students were quite happy about it, instead of a stuffy, humid, hot classroom they had a breezy cool classroom.

Now the maintenance guys were supposed to do this last week but in every classroom I have gone in everyone just sits and sweats. During breaks students run to the washrooms and douse themselves with cold water,

What is even more funny is the Korean teachers didnt even know the fans could be taken apart for cleaning. They were all amazed that I knew how and asked me where I had learnt such a thing. When I questioned one teacher he told me that when a fan gets too dirty he throws it out and gets a new one Rolling Eyes
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