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Adam J
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: Maximizing my employability with a teaching credential |
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Hello,
This is my first post, although I've been reading here several months. Thanks to everyone for sharing so much info.
I am currently a second year high school teacher in California. I have a B.A. in English, and a teaching credential (the teaching credential program from my college is a two-year program in addition to the B.A., resulting in about 60 graduate semester units).
I plan on going to at least one job fair for International Schools this winter. Aside from that, what is the best way to go about looking for Korean schools that might be interested in a teacher with a teaching credential from the U.S.?
Thanks!
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Post your resume online and schools will flock to you. If you need a job in September, I know of a school. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a B.A in english, a CELTA cert., and coming up on 2 yrs. esl experience.. i want a well paying public school job from Oct/ Nov, in order to save for an M.A course.... |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Adam - First, welcome to the board!
As an American with a teaching credential, you may be eligible for a position at one of the US military DoD schools in Korea. They're supposed to be excellent money and great benefits - might be worth looking into. They could also be a good foot in the door to the international DoD school system, as well as international schools in general.
Good luck-
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| I have a B.A in english, a CELTA cert., and coming up on 2 yrs. esl experience.. i want a well paying public school job from Oct/ Nov, in order to save for an M.A course.... |
I actually meant in the resume forum.... |
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Crois
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Hey I need a job in September. |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| Crois wrote: |
| Hey I need a job in September. |
yea but you're welsh.. we need english speakers here..  |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Crois wrote: |
| Hey I need a job in September. |
You sure you want to live in Seoul? |
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Adam J
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon -
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| Post your resume online and schools will flock to you. If you need a job in September, I know of a school. |
I didn't know there was a resume forum - thanks! I'm in the process of rewriting my resume right now. Should I also put together a simple web page with my resume on it?
Can you post or PM me some specifics about the job coming up this September?
The Lemon -
I've had zero luck gathering info about the DoD schools. I do check the following website periodically:
http://www.odedodea.edu/
The closest thing I ever find to working in Korea or Japan are jobs like this one:
http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=20694789&AVSDM=2004%2D04%2D19+13%3A56%3A39&Logo=0&col=dltc&cy=&brd=3876&lid=&fn=&q=
You too can make $10.25 per hour as a substitute teacher in Guam!
Seems there must be an inside track to DoD jobs, which I am not on. I do appreciate the suggestion, though.
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I have been in contact with International School Services and the minimum they want is: B.A., clear teaching credential, + 3 years teaching experience in the states. Next year I will have all this, so going to their job fair in December makes sense. ISS does a good job of screening out people who they do not think meet the minimum qualifications, resulting in an encouraging percentage of qualified candidates being hired at the job fair. However, most people they hire have Master's Degrees and/or are married to a teacher, so the odds are somewhat stacked against me.
I like my current job. It pays decent, about $40,000 U.S. per year, and in August I get tenure (lifetime job). However, I would like to experience living in a foreign country, hopefully somewhere where I wouldn't have to own a car, possibly with cheaper rent, so I could save money. I've lived in the same place 8 years and the time seems right for a change of scenery. One motivation is that everyone I know is getting married, having babies, buying houses. That's not for me.
I'm looking into starting an M.A. in English this January as a backup plan. Graduate school doesn't get any cheaper than California's CSU system, and I could probably keep my current job (perhaps with fewer hours) while earning the M.A. in 1.5 years.
Anyhow, just looking for some advice and perspective. I pretty much want to avoid the hagwons altogether and focus employment prospects on Korean high schools, international schools, and Universities. I've read about the 12-15 hour per week University jobs, and would take a pay cut for more free time - but is this too much to expect?
Sorry about the long post, just have a lot bouncing around in my head.
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JennyJJ
Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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Only my opinion Adam, but wait the one more year until you meet ISS's requirements. Then you will have much much more in the way of opportunity, income, and ability to see the world.
The "real" international schools will pay on par with your school where you are now - but will tend to include free housing, vacation schedules like you are used to, annual plane tickets and annual (paid at the end of the contract) bonuses. Additionally, they will pay comparably regardless of where in the world they are located. You won't have to work for $400 a month because you want to live in Shanghai, or $600 because Bangkok calls.
ISS and the other "real" international recruiters (I'm not talking hagwons here . . .) are by far the best path to follow. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Adam J wrote: |
The Lemon -
I've had zero luck gathering info about the DoD schools. I do check the following website periodically:
http://www.odedodea.edu/
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That looks to be the correct site. But they say that April 1st is the cut-off for this year's hires. Keep it in mind for next year.
https://hq-w6.odedodea.edu/eas/ |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| JennyJJ wrote: |
Only my opinion Adam, but wait the one more year until you meet ISS's requirements. Then you will have much much more in the way of opportunity, income, and ability to see the world.
The "real" international schools will pay on par with your school where you are now - but will tend to include free housing, vacation schedules like you are used to, annual plane tickets and annual (paid at the end of the contract) bonuses. Additionally, they will pay comparably regardless of where in the world they are located. You won't have to work for $400 a month because you want to live in Shanghai, or $600 because Bangkok calls.
ISS and the other "real" international recruiters (I'm not talking hagwons here . . .) are by far the best path to follow. |
And keep in mind that income tax here is waaaaaaay lower than in the USA. Maybe about 5 percent after you add up all the different taxes, etc.? Not sure, but it's low.
SAVE, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE.... VACATION, VACATION, VACATION..... |
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kylehawkins2000
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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Most International Schools Use "TIE" to recruit. TIE stands for "The International Educator" They hold job fairs in major cities around the world. Generally hiring for september positions starts in January and is generally completed by March or April. Some schools have teachers back out at various times though and needs arise throughout the year.
You can check out their website at www.tieonline.com. It is a pay site though and you'll have to purchase a membership in order to browse the jobs and post your resume.
I had some success with searching the net for contact information for schools in Seoul and simply calling them up and asking them how I could apply. Generally they'll just ask you to email your resume and a coverletter to them. |
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Crois
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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Yes I want to work in Seoul next year.
And being Welsh. I think I am more Asian than the kids I teach. I lived in Hong Kong for 18 years so it was my home. |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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