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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: security deposit deduction Reply with quote

here is a part of the contract regarding deductions for security dep for school apt.

"2) Employee will pay the cost of utility charges, maintenance charges, and telephone charges accrued while a resident in said accommodations, or in the event that employee shares accommodations, utility charges, maintenance charges, and telephone charges will be evenly shared among employees sharing said accommodations.
3) Employee agrees to the withholding from salary payments of a security deposit to cover possible unpaid monthly service charges, utility charges, and telephone charges; or to cover repayments for employee's default on contract agreements. Such deposit mounting to 600,000 Won will be deducted in equal installments from employee's salary during the first three months of employment with employer. You will only receive your full security deposit of 600,000won depending on your completion of a written list of things needed to be taken care of before you leave. If you do not complete any of these tasks, employer will hold the full amount of the security deposit until all outstanding monthly service charges, utility charges, and telephone charges have been paid in full. In the event that employer makes payments covering monthly service charges, utility charges, and telephone charges on behalf of employee, the amount of such payments will be deducted from the security deposit and the remainder of the security deposit returned to employee. Employer agrees that payment of the remaining amount of the security deposit will be made to employee within ten days after all outstanding monthly service charges, utility charges, and telephone charges have been paid in full."

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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. We owe a big round of applause and a hearty thank you to runners and general screw ups who created the mess by leaving hakwons or the next occupant to pay their bills.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont like deposits but this line is pure stupidity
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depending on your completion of a written list of things needed to be taken care of before you leave.


What mystery list could this possible be Confused
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What mystery list could this possible be



Proof of payment of final bills for phone, utilities etc.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem from the deposit stems from: if you provide reciepts showing you have paid your bills why should you have to wait to get the deposit back?

I understand the need for a deposit but it can easliy turn into a cash grab by any unscrupulous hogwan owner. You will get your deposit back one month after you complete the contract. HAHAHAHAAHA Twisted Evil
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proof that your apartment isn't trashed and that you didn't sell all the furniture.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

600 000 won was the standard deposit at my last hagwon. One guy managed to negotiate his down to 200 000. He then did a midnight runner. I, on the other hand, stuck out my contract and got screwed out of a good chunk of my deposit money. He was smarter than me.
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky I guess, no deposit needed. When my first bills arrived there was around 70,000 owing from the last teacher, but my director offered to pay for it all (including the small amount I owed).

Stoked!
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peppermint there are easy ways around the trashed apartment/sold furniture.

To me it would be common sense for the employer to tell their employee that they need to come by the last day to give him/her their pay...if things are missing or trashed then you can deal with it then and there...telling someone "you will get your money back a month down the road" is asking for a lot of trust on their part.
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