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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Photoshop Reply with quote

How does one get "good" at it?
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this from Amazon would be a good place to start...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321115627/qid=1117655611/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-0982451-4642323?v=glance&s=books

as would asking the folks at WORTH1000.com:

http://www.worth1000.com/galleries.asp?display=photoshop
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like anything else.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

search the net for tutorials - there are tons of them. Alternatively you could get the video tutorial for total training - which is incredible and has done wonders for my photoshop skills.
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poddubny



Joined: 03 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Something like this from Amazon would be a good place to start...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321115627/qid=1117655611/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-0982451-4642323?v=glance&s=books


you can just d/l classroom in a book from the adobe website for free:

http://www.adobe.com/education/classroominabook/cib_photoshop.html
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
search the net for tutorials - there are tons of them. Alternatively you could get the video tutorial for total training - which is incredible and has done wonders for my photoshop skills.


is the vid online Super?


Also, thanks for the replies guys
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone has not yet checked out the WORTH1000.com site (particularly the 'best of' galleries) it is well worth your time.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhotoImpact is another good one.

Have a friend show you a few things. Also, a Photoshop/English exchange with a Korean might be helpful.

Cheers!
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
is the vid online Super?

total training for every adobe product.

I'm sure if you try real hard you could find an alternative source Wink
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learned using the "Adobe Photoshop Classroom in a book" series, which is also available for other products.

Was the best thing out there for the beginner, and probably still is. A CD of projects you work along, along with step-by-step examples are part of the book.

You can buy it on Amazon.

They also have a great series for After Effects.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check Limewire or a P2P search for Destk Reference for Dummies. It's pretty good.
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Like anything else.

He's right. Everyone learns differently, so the best way to get good is to learn your way. And what you don't mention is what you want to learn.

My skill at Photoshop is pretty high, and I learned from the instruction book. Then I just used it all the time. Then it became a large part of my job, so I used it even more. Now I'm at the point where I can correct mistakes in the books on the shelves.

Yet I always see something that I didn't know before - I usually see them online, or in a magazine. The fakirs actually taught me a lot - those guys are geniuses. Every now and then I will pick up a book on a real hardcore topic, but it better be a good book.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, I guess i could have been more specific. But, frankly I really didn't want to.

I wanted a variety of answer because my usual method wasn't working.

Usually I pick up any kind of game/software and just jump into it (with no instruction book), but with Photoshop i've been quite limited in what I can get into without some type of base.

I don't have the manual so I thought I'd see how everyone else learned their skills.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Bulsajo also linked to the "Adobe Classroom in a Book."

I'm telling you, that's the ticket... work at your own pace. Gives you a very strong foundation. It's simple, step-by-step, and teaches you practically everything you need to know.

I see many people put it up on the sharing sites, too. But don't download it. That's illegal. Cool
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Pulgasori



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: En Route to Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you're looking to get out of your photoshop 'experience'.
If you're just in it for fun, if you just want to test your creativity a bit....don't buy/read/look at anything even resembling a tutorial or book. Take your time to play around and uncover the features on your own terms. For the long-haul, by discovering new techniques and then applying them in your own distinct manner, you'll be MUCH better off. If you keep at it, keep building on what you've already taught yourself you'll find yourself coming up with new ideas and approaches that the tutorial-taught tend not to uncover so easily.

Another rewarding aspect of being self-taught is the feeling you get when you 'accidently' create something truly spectacular...just by chance (trial and error).

HOWEVER, if you have a more specific reason for wanting to learn photoshop, or a certain timeline, by all means read the tutorials. If it's something you need to pick up for a job...'by the book' may suit you better.


Anyways, that's just my opinion on the matter.
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