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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: EFL-Law: Interesting quote Reply with quote

I found this on EFL-Law's forum, and I thought it would be interesting to quote here. The actual topic he was speaking to wasn't interesting to me, but the stats he mentioned about how many people contact him daily was quite interesting.



Here is the quote, by the EFL-Law guy:

"Every day I come across serious substantiated accusations asking me to intervene...
example:

paedophile teachers
teachers not paying massive phone bills
teachers doing a MNR owing credit card money
teachers not paying their lawyers..
teachers taking the free ticket to Korea to work but simply disappearing on arrival (i.e, a free ticket to Korea)
teachers running drug operations

This is not to mention the 30-40 cases a day of foreign teachers seeking help for contractual problems...

"

Here is the link:
http://efl-law.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2835&highlight=#2835
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be a lot of sinning on both sides.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my past experiences when I was on the other side, I had no idea how much crap that teachers give out, from the pre-hiring process antics all the way to post-contract. This site hears the one-sided gripes against schools, but I can't begin to tell you how much crazy stuff teachers do, not to mention how much more they screw schools and recruiters over, vs them get screwed from schools and teachers. It really surprised the hell out of me. That's the #1 reason why I'm so cynical when people talk union or put up blacklists on here.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some friends from different recruiting companies. I've heard stories from their side, too.

I always tell them to make it painfully obvious that the teacher is on his/her own once the contract starts. You're there to give advice, but you're not responsible for problems that develop between the school and the teacher. Recruiters should make it known that they are merely the messenger. Unfortunately, they feel it's necessary to "sell" their agency as a trustable organization who will "be there for you." I feel building trust is important, but be point-blank honest about how the teaching experience will, in large part, be what they make of it.

I have yet to take a job just because the recruiter made a better promise of "being there for" me once the job started. I take jobs because the money, hours, and school appeal to me in various ways.

Recruiters shouldn't promise any more than that they are the link to a job -- not a source for handling complaints if it doesn't work out.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chronicpride wrote:
In my past experiences when I was on the other side, I had no idea how much crap that teachers give out, from the pre-hiring process antics all the way to post-contract. This site hears the one-sided gripes against schools, but I can't begin to tell you how much crazy stuff teachers do, not to mention how much more they screw schools and recruiters over, vs them get screwed from schools and teachers. It really surprised the hell out of me. That's the #1 reason why I'm so cynical when people talk union or put up blacklists on here.

Hey, is there a Blacklist of teachers? Or do recruiters just refer to the Freakiest Waygook Contest thread and try & match names to characters described therein? Razz
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paedophile teachers -Heard of it happening. But, everyday?
teachers not paying massive phone bills -Definitely heard of it.
teachers doing a MNR owing credit card money -Sounds plausible.
teachers not paying their lawyers-Good for them.
teachers taking the free ticket to Korea to work but simply disappearing on arrival (i.e, a free ticket to Korea)-Seen it happen. Even saw two guys go back to Newfoundland 48 hrs later after one weekend in Korea!
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