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chotaerang



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Fact or fiction: Record companies plant songs ... Reply with quote

on P2P sites which can't be burned on to CD's? I'm leaning towards believing it as I've had no luck burning some songs on to CD while others work fine. I've tried different burning software, different computers, better quality CD's and slowing down the burn rate. Nothing, however, is good enough to coax George Thorogood into finishing a song before crashing the CD.

If it's not a corporate conspiracy, is there any other reason why songs which play well as MP3's go bad when burnt onto CD's?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Fact or fiction: Record companies plant songs ... Reply with quote

chotaerang wrote:
on P2P sites which can't be burned on to CD's? I'm leaning towards believing it as I've had no luck burning some songs on to CD while others work fine. I've tried different burning software, different computers, better quality CD's and slowing down the burn rate. Nothing, however, is good enough to coax George Thorogood into finishing a song before crashing the CD.

If it's not a corporate conspiracy, is there any other reason why songs which play well as MP3's go bad when burnt onto CD's?


Try to convert it to wav and then burn it.
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the saint



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Fact or fiction: Record companies plant songs ... Reply with quote

chotaerang wrote:
on P2P sites which can't be burned on to CD's? I'm leaning towards believing it as I've had no luck burning some songs on to CD while others work fine. I've tried different burning software, different computers, better quality CD's and slowing down the burn rate. Nothing, however, is good enough to coax George Thorogood into finishing a song before crashing the CD.

If it's not a corporate conspiracy, is there any other reason why songs which play well as MP3's go bad when burnt onto CD's?

It all depends on your player. Some (esp newer ones or ones on PCs) will play disks full of mp3s but these tend to be a rarity really. As mindmetoo says, you'll need to convert to wav as these can be read by all (well nearly) CD players.

FWIW, I can guess your next question... remember, Google is your friend Wink
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: Fact or fiction: Record companies plant songs ... Reply with quote

the saint wrote:
chotaerang wrote:
on P2P sites which can't be burned on to CD's? I'm leaning towards believing it as I've had no luck burning some songs on to CD while others work fine. I've tried different burning software, different computers, better quality CD's and slowing down the burn rate. Nothing, however, is good enough to coax George Thorogood into finishing a song before crashing the CD.

If it's not a corporate conspiracy, is there any other reason why songs which play well as MP3's go bad when burnt onto CD's?

It all depends on your player. Some (esp newer ones or ones on PCs) will play disks full of mp3s but these tend to be a rarity really. As mindmetoo says, you'll need to convert to wav as these can be read by all (well nearly) CD players.

FWIW, I can guess your next question... remember, Google is your friend Wink


I believe he's having problems with the actual burning process, not the listening part.

As a respnse to the OP, I would say that a corporate plant doesn't sound too inconceivable to me. They are already doing so with serials and crackz which they can target to deactivate pirated software. However, I would say that it is more likely that you downloaded shared files that were purchased online at iTunes, Napster, or any number of other places. If this is the case then, these files definitely have Digital Rights Music (DRM), protection and you can't convert them to MP3s unless you use a real-time encoding program such as muvaudio. What is the filetype for the songs you are using. I know that iTunes uses AACs with DRM wrappers... I'm not too sure about the others. If this is, indeed, your problem, you will never have success in burning them until you are able to bypass the DRM coding.
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fact. Personally, I like it when Madonna cusses me out.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed a couple of albums in the last year where the last song has extra dead air (anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes). I noticed this on songs from copy protected albums I bought and then broke the protection to listen on my MP player. Whether this was done deliberately to tick off people who might break the protection and then share the song on PtP, or whether this some unintended peculiarity of either CD protected albums or the process of breaking the protection, I have no idea.

I have no doubt whatsoever that pretty much all large companies- software games and applications, songs, movies, etc.- are spreading malware, viruses, misnamed and corrupted files via PtP, but try to get any of them to admit it- it's not gonna happen.

PtP is like a virtual warzone, it all reads like an early William Gibson novel...
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes....no doubt they are trying to do this, but the bottom line is that users are the ones holding the files, not the RIAA. They can put a virus onto the network, but it's people that find it and don't share it.

There is such a pervasive attitude out there right now that the RIAA are a bunch of thugs....people just will not help them by sharing known malware.

George Thorogood? There's your problem...you can switch off the "don't burn George" option in most quality software. Wink
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chotaerang



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Fact or fiction: Record companies plant songs ... Reply with quote

Try to convert it to wav and then burn it.[/quote]

I'm using a mac and plunking about 10 songs into burn folder then burning. They must not be in MP3 form or else I guess they wouldn't play at all on the cheapie portable cd player. I didn't state this clearly enough in the OP, but the problem is that a few tracks play well, but the 3rd of 4th always conks out in the middle of the song.
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gaelforce



Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recently noticed what seem to be random code-strings in the comments tag from mp3s from limewire and soulseek. Since not many people look at this section of the tag they probably go unnoticed.

Here's one example:

00000704 00000704 0000569B 0000569B 000392CB 000392CB 00007431 00007431 0001786D 0001786D

Iknow some rippers/hackers put their tag or signature there but these look nothing like that.
Has anyone experienced this too or does anyone know what it means?
Looks like some kind of tracker marker...or have I been reading this paranoid thread too much?
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