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If you cleared 1,200,000 won per month, would you stay in Korea or go elsewhere?
Yes
28%
 28%  [ 8 ]
No
71%
 71%  [ 20 ]
Total Votes : 28

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Badmojo



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Well, would you? Reply with quote

A simple question. Let's say 1.2 under your present working conditions are they are in universities, public schools, or hagwons.

If yes, why?

If no, where would you go and what would you do?

My answer is not in a million years. I'm here first and foremost for the money. And nothing keeps me here if I don't have that.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well who would stay for that little? A million is easy to spend. I think most people would rather be broke elsewhere. Or, go elsewhere where the money is higher, though that would certainly make it harder to get jobs elsewhere, with everyone leaving Korea for Taiwan or wherever. Fortunately I don't see the pay going under 2.0 ever.

But maybe the new transcripts policy might drive a few people away? Maybe that could help us get a bit more pay, if there are fewer of us here?
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Badmojo



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Well who would stay for that little? A million is easy to spend. I think most people would rather be broke elsewhere. Or, go elsewhere where the money is higher, though that would certainly make it harder to get jobs elsewhere, with everyone leaving Korea for Taiwan or wherever. Fortunately I don't see the pay going under 2.0 ever.

But maybe the new transcripts policy might drive a few people away? Maybe that could help us get a bit more pay, if there are fewer of us here?


1.2 million is more than teaching jobs in Africa and South America and most jobs in Western Europe pay. 1.2 million is more than most places in the world.

1.2 is also more than enough to live on in Korea.

What's wrong with that?
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Well who would stay for that little? A million is easy to spend. ?


Here in Shanghai, the best-paying part of China, a well-paid teacher makes about 1200 won per month... and that's enough to be rich here and have a maid, take taxis everywhere you want to go all the time, and fly somewhere new in China every weekend if you want. But in Korea, it would only be barely enough to put food on the table each month since stuff is so much more expensive there.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pest2 wrote:

Here in Shanghai, the best-paying part of China, a well-paid teacher makes about 1200 won per month .


This must be a mistake.
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't want to pedantic, but your question isn't a yes or no answer. i wouln't stay for 1.2 million won. i'm here to make money.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paperbag...but at 1.2 you could still make money.

It would be question of lifestyle adjustment...so in an absolute you would be making money.

Also, what about teaching? Does that factor into your financial gain equation for being here?
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Badmojo



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paperbag princess wrote:
i don't want to pedantic, but your question isn't a yes or no answer. i wouln't stay for 1.2 million won. i'm here to make money.


I'd like to change the poll options, but can't.

How's this for you?

Yes, I'd stay
No, I'd go
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the job conditions are similar but one pays W1.2 million and another pays W2.2 million, unless there is some other factor involved, why do the same work for significantly less money? It doesn't mean money is the #1 priority. It's just common sense.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just a 100,000 less than I made when I first came back in the day. Back then, it was no problem, but my tastes have gotten more expensive and with a credit card, online shopping eats up quite a bit of my salary.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way you set up the poll, "Yes" is the only logical answer. But it doesn't mean anything. Yes, I would go elsewhere.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
pest2 wrote:

Here in Shanghai, the best-paying part of China, a well-paid teacher makes about 1200 won per month .


This must be a mistake.


Yeah sorry... I meant 1.2 million... gimmee a break.... I've been converting and calculating currencies of 9 countries over the last month so its easy to get them confused. haha
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I got paid that I'd NEVER be able to save for my wedding Shocked
For that amount of money I'd definately head to China, Taiwan or Japan, I really like the pay:cost of living ratio I get here...
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Badmojo, I wonder why you chose that particular sum -- 1.2 million won/month. I'm also surprised that 1.2 mil. won is more than the average teacher earns in the other places you mentioned. (In _Western_ Europe? *shudder* A government handout for doing nothing might pay better. Seriously.)

Rather than the poll you've got here, I think it would be more interesting (and damned intrusive, too) if people had to state the lowest salary they'd consider before leaving Korea.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'd stay for a first year, a second year and even this, my third year. I'm not here for the money, something my retired father clued into and somehow managed to get me to volunteer to send his some help from time to time, which ended up at ten thousand dollars per year. I've cut that back with expensive travels taken this year.

But I wouldn't stay for a fourth, opting for some of the many places one could make enough to live comfortably and save just enough for international travel on vacations and for the transition between jobs.

If I decide to stay for a fourth year next year it'll be with the express intention of saving up funds in a place I like. I feel like there's more to see and do here, a lot more, but the initial surge of discovery and adaptation has already taken place. Everything is starting to feel routine, comfortable, in a good, but different way. I'm just as likely to go elsewhere. The money is beside the point.
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