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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Things "better" at Gitmo Reply with quote

Members of the US Congress who toured Guantanamo Bay prison have said that conditions there are improving, despite renewed calls for its closure.
Their visit came at a time of growing concern that treatment of prisoners there is harming America's image.

More than 500 non-Americans - many captured during the war in Afghanistan and declared "enemy combatants"- are being detained at the facility.

Only four current inmates have been charged with any crime.

On Saturday 16 Representatives who sit on the House Armed Services Committee toured the prison, at a naval base on Cuba, during a one-day fact-finding trip.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4623249.stm
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Members of the US Congress who toured Guantanamo Bay prison have said that conditions there are improving, despite renewed calls for its closure.


So one assumes that these same members had visited earlier to be able to make a comparative judgement.

However good - or bad - the conditions in the camp, the image of the US as a bastion of civil rights and liberties has been tarnished. That is sad.

4 of 500 charged? After two years?

The inmates could be eating caviar and allowed conjugal visits and the image would still be tarnished.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gitmo is just the tip of the iceberg, its all that remains visible. Its the secret camps in Afghanistan and other places, its the renditions to other countries for interrogations far worse than Gitmo, that truly bother me in terms of unfair conduct.

As Wangja said, these people are not charged, there is no framework for adequately assessing their innocence or guilt, so the problem is how can you condone treating these people even remotely harshly? How can you even allow them to be held? Give them a hearing after 6 months, make it speedy and quick, they don't even need a jury, and it would be far better. Just some accountability. Some attempt at due process. It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't even have to reveal classified evidence.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a post from Andrew Sullivan about Gitmo. Be sure to read the linked article as well.

The authors don't come from a perspective I nor many on this board fully share, but they're definitely worth a read. I predict many more conservatives turning against the Bush war strategy and him ending his term quite unpopular.

Then again I also was convinced Kerry would win.
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