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Many Koreans unhappy with five-day week
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Many Koreans unhappy with five-day week Reply with quote

Many Koreans unhappy with five-day week
The reason for introducing the five-day workweek to a country accustomed to working Saturdays was to improve the quality of workers' lives. But many Koreans -- a majority, according to a government survey -- aren't happy with the new lifestyle.
A 40-year-old employee at a brokerage firm in Yeouido, Seoul, who asked to be identified only as Mr. Lim, said he rejoiced when he heard about the new system. But "after driving out to the country every weekend, there was nowhere else to go," Mr. Lim said.
"Sometimes the coming weekend worries me," he said.
Mr. Lim is not alone in complaining about a lack of things to do with the new leisure time. Others interviewed said they were worried about the extra money they've been spending on leisure activities. And some complain that they're working harder than they used to during the shorter workweek. Many people complained about the financial burden placed on them by the extra leisure spending.

Kim Kang-joon, a 39 year-old office worker, was skating along the Han River with his family last weekend. "I spent 400,000 won ($395) on the inline skates, and we've been to several water parks in the metropolitan area," Mr. Kim said. "But it's been costing me an additional 300,000 won per weekend, once you include gas and paying for parking," he said. "We'd be stretching our budget if we went to the parks every weekend." Mr. Lim, the brokerage firm employee, said his leisure spending has increased every month. "My salary is just the same as before, but our family spending has doubled," Mr. Lim added.

The survey by the Ministry of Culture and Tourism found that 83.1percent of those surveyed said their spending on leisure had gone up; 16.3 percent said it was the same as it was before the five-day workweek system was adopted. Only 0.6 percent said they spent less on leisure than they used to.

Many people said that the need to get everything done before the weekend had added to their stress at work. The Culture Ministry's survey found that 38.1 percent said their workload during the week had gone up.
"Since the five-day workweek, I have no strength left to think of anything else but making up for lost sleep, because I have to go to the office earlier than before and I am overloaded with work," said an employee at Daewoo Securities who asked for anonymity.

Some also complained of a lack of leisure "infrastructure," that is, adequate roads to some tourist spots and an insufficient number of hotel rooms.
by Special Reporting Team, JoongAng Daily (June 27, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200506/27/200506272228161539900090509051.html
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Squid



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing "Nowhere else to go" Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



What a loser.


"Leisure infrastructure"... at least someone's brain is switched on.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"But it's been costing me an additional 300,000 won per weekend, once you include gas and paying for parking,"

Take the freaking subway. How does gas & parking add up to 300,000?
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I_Am_Wrong



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pshaw!

some people need to learn how to be creative with their time and some people need to learn how to not waste money.
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Mr. Literal



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally pathetic.

So Mr. Lim can't bear the thought of occasionally renting some DVDs, ordering takeout, and just staying in?
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm going to have to teach that guy the meaning of the word 'chill'. That's all I could think of while reading the op. Just chill! How hard is that?
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will take time but they will get used to sitting on the couch watching Tv and scratching themselves.

The roller blades...okay initial expenditure 400$ now they can go roller blading for free...expenditure zip.

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Take the freaking subway. How does gas & parking add up to 300,000?


Gas, parking maybe 20,000. Dinner for 4 anywhere from 20,000-100,000 depending on whether they eat Western or fancy or regular Korean. Buying kids stupid touristy stuff, pops, candy etc...50,000(maybe) entrance to movie+popcorn and pop for family= 40,000.

Yeah I am kind of hard pressed to drag it out to 300,000 won as well Laughing
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that some people will find anything to complain about ( as if this board wasn't enough proof) but maybe also that Mr. Lim doesn't want to spend that much time with his family.

I know Koreans are always talking about how important family is to the culture and things, but I've also heard a lot of individual Koreans complain about having to spend time with their husband or wife, and the kids.
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bignate



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
but maybe also that Mr. Lim doesn't want to spend that much time with his family.

.... I've also heard a lot of individual Koreans complain about having to spend time with their husband or wife, and the kids.


Bingo!
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deessell



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a clear indication of Koreans lack of imagination.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget though that it's a lot harder to just hang out in Korea. Nobody really goes to their friends' house to chill unless it's for a big dinner, and you can't just go for a drive in the country because the highways cost money too. I still think he suffers from a lack of imagination but the environment contributes to it too.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:


I know Koreans are always talking about how important family is to the culture and things, but I've also heard a lot of individual Koreans complain about having to spend time with their husband or wife, and the kids.


What exactly are the nature of their complaints? The men don't like going shopping with their wives? They don't like going to dinner at a restaurant with their family? This doesn't make sense to me. I mean, why get married in the first place?

I can't believe people are complaining about having an extra day off. Most people I know would kill for that. Idiots. Maybe they should find a new hobby to fill their free time. I suggest Mr. Lim study English in his free time if he doesn't know what to do with himself. What a tool.
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pollyplummer



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: chill Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Don't forget though that it's a lot harder to just hang out in Korea. Nobody really goes to their friends' house to chill unless it's for a big dinner, and you can't just go for a drive in the country because the highways cost money too. I still think he suffers from a lack of imagination but the environment contributes to it too.


I agree. They need a lesson in chill and some imagination expanding activities. Pass the peace pipe, please. Seriously, Korea could benefit. Ah, wouldn't my Indian ancestors be proud? Wink Gosh, guys, just relax.

I also agree with Peppermint. Many of my co-workers complain about having to spend time with their husbands or having to go see the in-laws. I've never heard them say that they had a good time. They always say that they HAD to go. They don't know how to spend leisure time, because they grow up with really rigid schedules and are not taught to think for themselves. If I ask a student, "What would you like?" he has to look around at everyone else and talk to them before making a decision. I dont like it. It may be a culture thing, but culture is not almighty, and I dont dig the lack of independent thinking.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
I think I'm going to have to teach that guy the meaning of the word 'chill'. That's all I could think of while reading the op. Just chill! How hard is that?


True, but Koreans will have a hard time getting used to this concept. Doing nothing makes them uncomfortable. Doing very little while at work makes them feel very comfortable however.

I get the feeling when I walk my dog at the local riverpark that Koreans feel there must be an end to everything they do. So they don't just amble along the river, they roller-blade, they cycle, they jog, the ajumma's power-walk or dig up grass for barely edible dishes. An admirable attitude to health I suppose but is it possible for them to relax now and then and just stroll and enjoy the day.

Also, as Grotto says, the noble art of sitting on the sofa in front of the box scratching your arse has not reached these shores yet.
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Butterfly



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deessell wrote:
This is a clear indication of Koreans lack of imagination.


It's an article about how some people are adjusting to change. Try to put it into a more long-term context.
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