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Public School Teachers and Job Performance Evaluations
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Public School Teachers and Job Performance Evaluations Reply with quote

For all of those of you in public\private school jobs how are you evaluated on your job performance?

For a hackwons and universities it's pretty straight forward, keeping the "customers" happy is job number #1. Keep the students (and their money) rolling in, and you keep your job.

However in public\private schools it seems we are actually expected to increase the students' knowledge of English; their general opinion of us be damned.

In what way is your job performance in a public\private school appraised?
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, Jack, but this month I predict your students will say:

"He was a great teacher, but then he started using the internet in class all day. He just sort of stopped teaching us. One of us approached him and asked, 'What are you doing, teacher?.' He said, 'SHUT UP!! Can't you see I'm a MOD now?!?!' I've got to delete this thread, before someone else reads it and responds to it!"

Laughing Laughing


In reality, though.... we are evaluated in the court of public opinion. I think they just randomly ask students if they like us or not.

I may be in trouble this time around, as our 1st grade class is HORRIBLY RUDE this year, and I've been rough on them. I may not be so well-liked by them.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year I gave an open class and was evaluated on that.

This year my school had to submist all that paperwork I mentioned in my 'heads up gyeonggi do teachers' for evaluation of me.

I get a bit of informal feedback from teachers and the principal.

Also my school looks at attendance in camps (numnbers and retention) and special class (which is hard because my school charges too much and we don't get adequate numbers)
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rumpolestitskin



Joined: 12 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

%^#$ guess I should have just let them watch video's.

What pupil isn't going to say bad things about a teacher who makes them work instead of letting them talking all lesson and draw on the desks?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with epik & as far as I know my kids have zero input into my evaluations -- wouldnt mind if they did! My supervisor submits some form (quarterly?) more about punctuality & presentability & getting along in the staff office than anything qualitative. I think if youre not screwing up majorly, its just a rubberstamp document.
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PolyChronic Time Girl



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My evaluation wasn't too bad. Mind you, my high school wasn't through EPIK or any of the other stuff. I had an observation class in which all the administration big wigs in the school showed up along with about 10 other English teachers to watch me. I was lucky in that I got to choose which day and class I wanted to show off. They wanted me to use power-point and all that jazz....stuff that is far beyond my normal day of teaching. And when I finished, they gave me 30,000 won gift certificate to any store basically. Not too bad. Kind of wish I had a couple more observations just to cash in on those gift certificates (which I used for Kyobo).
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if I have or will be given an observation. Though, a month back, I helped another Korean teacher co-teach this lesson in front of some administrator from the local education office. This led them wanting me to present an hour long workshop on English Language Interaction in the Classroom for Non-Native English Teachers. Thank god they backed out of that after a few weeks. I think the results would not have been pretty considering that 3/4 of the teachers need translation after I spoke for 5 mins at the workshop.

I agree saying, that it's more of a paperwork and popularity thing. If the co-workers and high-level students like you, you are a good teacher.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school is private. All the teachers are evaluated by the students. (Korean and native)

The evaluations are a total waste of time and paper. They give us some number rankings and make some comments. 1 out of 10 students will actually give an honest ranking/comment.

It isn't based on how well you teach IMO. It is based on how nice you are when grading, how you make the exam - that is too easy or too hard, and how nice you are to them in class.

IMO most students expect because I am a native teacher with a white face, that I am there to amuse them or something.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
My school is private. All the teachers are evaluated by the students. (Korean and native)

The evaluations are a total waste of time and paper. They give us some number rankings and make some comments. 1 out of 10 students will actually give an honest ranking/comment.

It isn't based on how well you teach IMO. It is based on how nice you are when grading, how you make the exam - that is too easy or too hard, and how nice you are to them in class.

IMO most students expect because I am a native teacher with a white face, that I am there to amuse them or something.


so... Mr. Pink has returned from the dead.

Welcome back!
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in EPIK, as far as I know we were not evaluated. However, I suspect the co-teachers probably had to send in monthly reports.

If so, I suspect I got bad evaluations...

I never wanted to teach, I had always looked down on teachers, I never saw or defined myself as a teacher and generally could care less about teaching. I'm a tech/engineering style of guy, not a fuzzy sing-song full of BS and smiles type which you kinda have to be if you want to be a real ESL teacher.

I kinda fell into the ESL thing in Korea through a weird chain of events.

Also having spent a year in an adult hogwan I had grown really sick of Koreans, so joining EPIK wasn't probably the best idea, hehehehe.

Thank god I'm out of ESL!!!! The Koreans are probably saying the same thing so I guess we're even, hehehehe.
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