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ninjamonkey



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Location: where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:03 am    Post subject: survey: your korean level Reply with quote

1. what level do you think your korean is at?

2. how long have you been in korea?

3. how hard have you tried to learn korean?
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would call my self high-beginner or low-intermediate. I've been in Korea a year, studying very lazily most of that time. My vocabulary is only maybe 450-500 words but that gets me by for simple conversations, like what I did yesterday, etc.

Once I got comfortable at a 'survival' level I got lazy and plateau'd. But once I started working hard (in February) in two months I could speak in full sentences and tell stories. One of my proudest early moments was getting the cute girls in the front office to crack up by telling them how I've always wanted to find some of those dancing go-go girls and watch them dance while drinking beer and eating ramen.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: survey: your korean level Reply with quote

ninjamonkey wrote:
1. what level do you think your korean is at?

2. how long have you been in korea?

3. how hard have you tried to learn korean?


1. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow intermediate

2. 3.5 years

3. first year learned a lot, second year learned some, third year learned next to nothing, now getting a lot of adult Korean exposure, SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM OHHHHHHHH YEAH
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#3 - that's good to hear. ���̽�~
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dg611



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been here 9+ years...I would rate myself a solid intermediate (though my students seem to think I am fluent the way they talk to me...at the speed of light) I never really took any lessons...just sort of picked it up here and there...wife is Korean...daughter is learning and so therefore must I. I would probably speak a lot better if I actually tried to study. It's just hard when you teach and use English for most things every day. (I know...excuses...excuses...they are like anni-see if the swear filter gets that one Smile
I guess I feel a little ashamed that I am not fluent after living here for so many years. Is it too late? Crying or Very sad
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: survey: your korean level Reply with quote

ninjamonkey wrote:
1. what level do you think your korean is at?

2. how long have you been in korea?

3. how hard have you tried to learn korean?


1. Low intermediate: vocab around 1500 words, but can never remember them when I need them.

2. 7 years in Korea, but only started to learn 2.5 years ago. When I first came here the company offered free lessons but I was too busy and did not take up the option: that was a huge mistake

3. Bloody hard. Perhaps 1,500 hours of study and I am appalled at my low rate of progress. But I keep going.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. I'd say I'm at a high beginner level. I can formulate basic sentences in present past and future tenses and can combine sentences. I negoitate meaning and often find that a prolonged conversation can get out of my depth.

2. Been in Korea 2.5 years.

3. I've been going to night classes at the SNU and sookmyung. Takes me 90 minutes to get there. so I've had to go out of my way to learn korean.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's hard to judge it objectively, right? sometimes I feel like i'm a solid intermediate, but other times i know my korean is shit. and there's a lot of weird gaps in my knowledge. I can't count past 40 in the pure korean number system. what is 'purple?' �����? i don't know it off the top of my head. what is 'nurse?' ��ȣ...��...��? don't know that either really.

go to to mith's board and look at the newspaper article translation thread. my name is 'dude' there although often i just signed in anonymously. i guess that would give you an idea.

does anybody have a korean test they could post up or give a link to? i have one but its only applicable to pretty advanced people.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. what level do you think your korean is at?

Beginner. About 300 words, which means I have the bare essentials when it comes to getting around, and a sketchy notion of the grammar.

2. how long have you been in korea?

10 months

3. how hard have you tried to learn korean?

I learned Hangul on the plane ride over, and paid very close attention to the commonly used phrases around me. I purchased 3 different text books, and I pull them out on long bus rides or when I need to fall asleep quickly. I make of an effort than most people I know, but I'm really bad at studying for reasonable periods of time.

I work in a school that teaches the same lessons at least 7 times, to 7 different classes, so I've benefited from the repetition, and definitely picked up some classroom Korean, and the translations of what we've been trying to teach them.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
1. I'd say I'm at a high beginner level. I can formulate basic sentences in present past and future tenses and can combine sentences. I negoitate meaning and often find that a prolonged conversation can get out of my depth.

I am similar to this...maybe a bit better as I can have some half-decent conversations and have a vocab of maybe 5 -7000 words but yeah...in the lower reaches of intermediate...

Its funny how some people think they are intermediate after learning maybe 100 words and some survival phrases...that is still only the low beginner slot...

Seriuosly if you think you are intermediate go to a bookstore and pick up an intermediate learners text-book from Seoul university and you will see you are probably nowhere near it as it takes a full year of solid solid study to get to that level at least...

go to the Sogang website and do the intermediate level...if you can do that then you are truly intermediate..

All my freinds crap on about how advanced i am(mainly because i am 100 times better than them) which is all very flattereing but in my heart i know that I am only just at the bottom of the hill..

the more I learn the less I think of my Korean ability..
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hater Depot wrote:
I would call my self high-beginner or low-intermediate. I've been in Korea a year, studying very lazily most of that time. My vocabulary is only maybe 450-500 words but that gets me by for simple conversations, like what I did yesterday, etc.

Not trying to bring you down a notch or anything as to learn this much is better than 90% of the foreigners do here but honestly you are maybe medium-beginner at best.....
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am similar to this...maybe a bit better as I can have some half-decent conversations and have a vocab of maybe 5 -7000 words but yeah...in the lower reaches of intermediate...


7,000 words I would put as a lot higher than low intermediate.

That is more than many native English speakers have in English.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wangja wrote:
7,000 words I would put as a lot higher than low intermediate.

That is more than many native English speakers have in English.

I know so many words but still can't use them properly yet...i have learnt so many vocab books and my grammar, sentance making needs to catch up.. Very Happy
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
wangja wrote:
7,000 words I would put as a lot higher than low intermediate.

That is more than many native English speakers have in English.

I know so many words but still can't use them properly yet...i have learnt so many vocab books and my grammar, sentance making needs to catch up.. Very Happy


Well, you have done bloody well. jukahaeyo ....
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
hater Depot wrote:
I would call my self high-beginner or low-intermediate. I've been in Korea a year, studying very lazily most of that time. My vocabulary is only maybe 450-500 words but that gets me by for simple conversations, like what I did yesterday, etc.

Not trying to bring you down a notch or anything as to learn this much is better than 90% of the foreigners do here but honestly you are maybe medium-beginner at best.....


I meant that was my level in grammar. My vocab is at a lower level for sure. And like billyrobby said, I have weird gaps in my vocab.

It's not a great excuse, but my teacher insists on using the old Yonsei textbooks which don't exactly progress logically. It's as if they were written by a committee of people who never spoke to one another. For example the year one book never covers the pure Korean numbers. It has no color words, most of the dialogues have no English translations nor is there a glossary, the grammar sections jump around randomly, etc. If you want to study avoid these books--they have blue spines are just called "�ѱ���".
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