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[bellum99]

Sometimes I feel bad about what is hapening in IRAQ.

I think the point that the terrorists are trying to make is that a people of a country are responsible. The western countries have been causnig trouble for the Muslim countries for a long time. If a man loses his family and 20 years have gone by, we say it is not our problem, but the man says it will always be your problem.
They do have point. For years they warned and warned and we trained them to fight each other. Year after year women and children died and we were responsible in some small way.
They complained at international events but no one wanted to listen. They compained in papers and on t.v, but no one wanted to listen. They warned and warned but still people didn't care. They had no way to force the U.S to leave them alone, and they couldn't get international support.
At some point you just give up. The terrorists know they will lose and they will die, but they just want to take some of them with them. Sons who have no mothers, sisters and fathers through the indirect actions of an uncaring greedy people.

[paperbag princess]

when are muslim clerics going to start speaking out against the violence? i think that it would be a good idea if some moderate muslims started showing a little disgust with the fundamentalists.

[Derrek]

Imagine how much progress would be made in that country if the terrorists were not there to destroy public works projects like sewage plants, factories, etc?

Iraq would be well on its way to recovery, and could, quite literally, become one of the richest countries in the middle east.

[endofthewor1d]

there's a forum dedicated specifically to whining about iraq and george bush. it's called "current events".

[Yu_Bum_suk]

If everything that's been poured into Iraq - security forces, humanitarian aid, slushy contracts, etc. - had been poured into Afghanistan, the US and its 'coalition' would have one model country on their hands and the people of Iraq would be no worse off than they have been for the past two years. Maybe some real threat like OBN would be behind bars as well?

[cubanlord]

Richest countries in the middle east? I wouldn't be hesitant to say a fore-runner on the Globe. With the amount of oil reserves they have.....man.

[Demonicat]

I agree, after all before US/coalition force intervention, Iraq was ruled by a benevolant elected leader who sponsored development, gender equality, and the poor. Please! Even if you don;t buy the whole WMD thing, or the search for terrorism thing, Sadam Hussein was a bloodthirsty tyrant in the middle of 2 genocides (the Kurds, and the southern marsh people who's name eludes me right now). The removal of him from power was not an evil act, further after his removal from power the US/Coalition forces have been trying to rebuild and restructure Iraq- the only combat is coming from the suppression of insurgent forces...forces trying to reestablish Bath party control/ prevent the social/infrastructure reforms needed desperately by the Iraqi people.
For the person who suggested that Afganistan was our model country (inferring that we conquered them for fun), you may feel free to replace the term Saddam with the term Taliban. The taliban were bloodthirsty oppressors killing any who disagreed with them. A woman could be killed for showing her face! Yes...I suppose it was wrong of us to go there... I realize that some hippie that's read a history book is about to type that the US sponsored the Taliban in the 80's. This is partly true. The US sponsored the Mujahadeen against the Russians, economically and with training. At the time though, we did not understand what they would become more than a decade later. As the US and England militaries do not sponsor an army corps of psychics, I believe this to be understandable.
"The only thing needed for the triumph of evil men is for good men to do nothing"

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Demonicat]

Would it have been better to allow the continued genocide of 2 peoples? No, I believe it is better to spread yourself a bit thin to preserve thousands of lives. Yes, we haven't devoted ourselves to the complete rebuilding of Afganistan. This is a GOOD thing. As any ex-peace corps (myself) or ex- development worker can tell you, its far better to empower a people and let them build themselves up then to do it for them. this is called sustainable development, because after you leave then what? If you did it for them, then it will break down and be unfixable. If they did build it, then they can maintain and repair it.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[endofthewor1d]

no really guys...


every thread in the 'current events' forum is discussing this already. you guys are missing all the fun.

'here's an aritcle i saw about iraq'
'bush is bad!'

'london just got bombed'
'it's because of iraq!'

'how do you feel about same sex marriages?'
'there were plenty of same sex marriages in iraq before america bombed it!'

'what do you think about stem-cell research?'
'i'll tell you what i think... america is bad!!!"

'north korea isn't a fun place to live'
'you're stupid and a racist! bush is bad!'


the general discussion forum is reserved for the 'korea is bad' threads.

[Demonicat]

End of the world: You sir, are correct. I respectfully pull my war mongering out of this thread. Then again, without a pro-war supporter can anti-war people have something to talk about...my goodness, yes they can. They just keep supporting each other about how bad the US is (never minds the Brits, Aussies, Spanish, Polish, etc in the Iraqi theatre).

Viva El Jefe, George bush!

[Barking Mad Lord Snapcase]