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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Questions for Muslims Reply with quote

1. Where is the body of Jesus buried?

2. Where is the body of Mohammad buried?
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bignate



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions for Muslims Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
1. Where is the body of Jesus buried?

2. Where is the body of Mohammad buried?


In the ground?
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seoulunitarian



Joined: 06 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions for Muslims Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
1. Where is the body of Jesus buried?

2. Where is the body of Mohammad buried?


Question for Christians (of the conservative type): Why does the resurrection matter so much? Any good religion is about life, not about death. Focusing on the bodily resurrection draws too much attention to the afterlife, and not enough to the here and now. And please, no more mention about Evidence that Demands a Verdict. I've read it twice.

Peace,
Daniel
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please answer the question....
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a Muslim or a Christian, but from my understanding of the religions ...

They are not buried anywhere, they both ascended bodily into heaven.

Muslims agree that Jesus was a prophet of God, they just disagree about his divinity. (as do Unitarians)
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broken



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: answer to your question Reply with quote

okay, one of my majors is theology, so I think I can shed some light on your question. The resurrection has a lot of emphasis because, Jesus became incarnate(acquired a human body) in order to relate to the people better, now after he died ( that signifies our death, because we all die eventually, and in sin) when he resurrected ( this signified new beginnings ,so sins are now forgiven) in christianity, when one becomes a Christian , it is called born again, hence, becoming cleansed from the old life, (which is living for your self) but when born again becoming a new person which is to live for God. This does not mean that the person belives they don't sin, but that they recognize they are sinners, but through Christ gain forgiveness. Hope that helps you.
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seoulunitarian



Joined: 06 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: answer to your question Reply with quote

broken wrote:
okay, one of my majors is theology, so I think I can shed some light on your question. The resurrection has a lot of emphasis because, Jesus became incarnate(acquired a human body) in order to relate to the people better, now after he died ( that signifies our death, because we all die eventually, and in sin) when he resurrected ( this signified new beginnings ,so sins are now forgiven) in christianity, when one becomes a Christian , it is called born again, hence, becoming cleansed from the old life, (which is living for your self) but when born again becoming a new person which is to live for God. This does not mean that the person belives they don't sin, but that they recognize they are sinners, but through Christ gain forgiveness. Hope that helps you.


I know the party line - I have a Bachelors and Masters in Religion (from conservative evangelical seminaries). And I come from a Southern Baptist background. But I think the point of the gospels is not death and resurrection (at least from Jesus' point of view), but doing your best to live a righteous (taking care of orphans and widows) life. Sorry, OP, for the digression.

Peace,
Daniel
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have much specific knowledge about Mohammed, but generally "prophets" and "spiritual masters" (like Jesus) are empowered to do "God's" work in the material world. A great soul or "mahatma" is protected by the (divine) spiritual energy of the Supreme Person and can absorb the sinful reactions of sincere followers. Universal gurus on the highest level (like Jesus) are fully empowered with all mystic perfections and occasionally (when necessary) display "miracles" to convince followers. By some accounts, Jesus traveled and preached in parts of India as a young man and quickly mastered the mystic yoga system. The "Aquarian Gospel of Jesus" (which I vaguely recall reading amidst a cloud of incense smoke circa 1970) gives some info about Jesus in India. Another understanding of the Crucifixion and Resurection is that Jesus, always protected by Divine energy, was completely absorbed in mystic yogic trance or samadhi after he was nailed to the cross. Because his breathing was almost imperceptible, he was mis-diagnosed as having died. Regaining external consciousness in his tomb, he broke out, wrapped up his difficult mission of trying to elevate predominantly barbaric, low-class desert-dwellers and eventually returned to India where he continued to preach (among more civilized people) and was known as Isis. There is still a shrine to "Isis" in Kashmir - where he is said to have passed away, and I have read that there is reference to this in the archives of the Russian Orthodox Church...I'm not a Biblical scholar, and obviously, some of what I have conveyed here is patched together with hearsay and philosophical speculation, but based on my study of Vedic spiritual science, I'm more inclined to accept this version of events than "official" church dogma.
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trigger123



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

posted in the general discussion forum i can understand, but posted in the current events forum?
i think derrek might be fishing....
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matthewwoodford



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions for Muslims Reply with quote

seoulunitarian wrote:
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