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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: Afghan Massacre: Convoy of Death |
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Afghan Massacre: Convoy of Death
In a film so controversial that US media won't even mention it, an Irish producer provides eyewitness testimony claiming that U.S. troops were complicit in the massacre of 3,000 Taliban prisoners during the Afghan War.
Watch Streaming Video of Producer Interview and Clips of Documentary
Free Full Afghan Massacre Movie Bittorrent (225 mb, avi)
Runtime : 50 min
Synopsis
The film tells the story of thousands of prisoners who surrendered to the US military��s Afghan allies after the siege of Kunduz. According to eyewitnesses, some three thousand of the prisoners were forced into sealed containers and loaded onto trucks for transport to Sheberghan prison. Eyewitnesses say when the prisoners began shouting for air, U.S.-allied Afghan soldiers fired directly into the truck, killing many of them. The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds.
Witnesses say that when the trucks arrived and soldiers opened the containers, most of the people inside were dead. They also say US Special Forces re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert and stood by as survivors were shot and buried. Now, up to three thousand bodies lie buried in a mass grave.
The film also provides footage of CIA officer Mike Spann interrogating American Taliban prisoner John Walker Lindh, just hours before Spann was killed in the famous prison uprising at Mazar-i-Sharif.
The film has outraged human rights groups and international human rights lawyers. They are calling for investigation into whether U.S. Special Forces are guilty of war crimes.
FreeDocumentaries.org AnalysisThis film is very controversial as it alleges American war crimes in Afghanistan. The producer in an interview claims that the Pentagon, State Department and US media have done their best to keep this film from Americans.
Two of the Afghan witnesses interviewed in this film have since been murdered.
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Wrench
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Wahh so they killed 3000 sons of bitches that will not be missed. Last time I checked they killed over 4k in the 9/11 attacks. I bet the 3000 afghans were all inocent too How many decades did the taliban rule Afghanistan, how many years did they abuse human rights?
If they want Jihad I say Kill them all and let god sort them out.
Captain Canuck I really hope you are not that gullable to believe in everything you see in the liberal media.
I am not sure if all those prisoners are even afghans some of them might have been mercaneries.
Also US decided to not abide to Geneva convention and I am not sure if Afghanistan is even a member country either way I don't see anything illigal. Bottom line they were terrorists they got what they deserved. |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
Wahh so they killed 3000 sons of *beep* that will not be missed. Last time I checked they killed over 4k in the 9/11 attacks. |
Who are "THEY" ??? The Afghans ??? Surely you're not saying "THEY" were the ones who piloted & funded the mission ??? |
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Wrench
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
Hmmmm ... while for the moment now all seriousness aside, why is it both your rhetorick & lousy spelling remind me so much of Joo ???
*shrugs*
Back to the seriousness now: if these claims prove true, the US "Special" Forces ( they're the "good" guys remember ) implicated should be immediately tried for war crimes. |
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Alias

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
Also US decided to not abide to Geneva convention and I am not sure if Afghanistan is even a member country either way I don't see anything illigal. Bottom line they were terrorists they got what they deserved. |
The US signed the Geneva convention. They would not be allowed to suffocate prisoners of war. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:46 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
Wrench wrote: |
Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
Hmmmm ... while for the moment now all seriousness aside, why is it both your rhetorick & lousy spelling remind me so much of Joo ???
*shrugs*
Back to the seriousness now: if these claims prove true, the US "Special" Forces ( they're the "good" guys remember ) implicated should be immediately tried for war crimes. |
Nah, Joo shows signs of warm blood and a working brain- some serious differences.
Wrench's comments are too base to respond to. |
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rapier
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
Agree with Wrench:)
How did the taliban treat their prisoners of war? er..."hostages".
Beheaded some, used others as human shields, and taunted the west with the others in menacing videos to try and extort concessions.
If the Taliban had managed to take 3000 Americans as POW's, what would they have done with them do you think?
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
Hmmmm ... while for the moment now all seriousness aside, why is it both your rhetorick & lousy spelling remind me so much of Joo ???
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That's 'rhetoric'. |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
igotthisguitar wrote: |
Hmmmm ... while for the moment now all seriousness aside, why is it both your rhetorick & lousy spelling remind me so much of Joo ???
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That's 'rhetoric'. |
No. It is indeed rhetorick. Which, if you think about it, although not quite magick, is a lot closer to poetick license 
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desultude

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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rapier wrote: |
Wrench wrote: |
Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
Agree with Wrench:)
How did the taliban treat their prisoners of war? er..."hostages".
Beheaded some, used others as human shields, and taunted the west with the others in menacing videos to try and extort concessions.
If the Taliban had managed to take 3000 Americans as POW's, what would they have done with them do you think?
right! |
So, the Taliban set the standards and we follow?  |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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desultude wrote: |
So, the Taliban set the standards and we follow?  |
No Des ... if these allegations are true ( and i sadly suspect they are ), it would be the actions of US "Special" Forces that the world is expected to follow. *beep* the Geneva Convention. Mass slaughter, no holds barred, take no prisoners, bomb first / ask questions later. Can this truely be the current US adminstration's idea of a "just" crusade ???
The people that commit acts such as these are murderous psychopaths ... ( and they love it ).
If their actions DON'T constitute war crimes, i have a hard time imagining what might  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
Wrench wrote: |
Last time I checked Afghanistans governemnt declared war on the States when they crashed into the trade towers. In war anything goes there are no pleasentries.
The only unfair fight is the one you loose. |
Hmmmm ... while for the moment now all seriousness aside, why is it both your rhetorick & lousy spelling remind me so much of Joo ???
*shrugs*
Back to the seriousness now: if these claims prove true, the US "Special" Forces ( they're the "good" guys remember ) implicated should be immediately tried for war crimes. |
How do you know the claims are true?
The US didn't do it. There are somethings that ought not to be done, but we don't know all the facts.
Overall the US has not behaved worse than other nations during war.
Even if that was done the US would still be the good guys. Just think what the other side would do if they won.
Overall the US has not behaved worse than other nations during war.
Just think what Jeff Rense would do or his followers would do if they came to power. |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
How do you know the claims are true?
The US didn't do it. |
How do you "know" the claims are false ??? Have you come across reports claiming the massacre of 3,000 unarmed Afghan prisoners was merely an "enemy" fabrication ??? You have "friends" who were there & will testify to it all being a mass conspiracy to frame the "innocent" & NOBLE Special US Forces ???
Moreover, why has the mainstream US media to this point supressed reporting this alleged massacre ??? If it's NOT true an open & independent investigation ( like say a film documentary ) would surely help to answer a few lingering questions.
As with the sadistic torture fiasco of Abugrahib and elsewhere, it all adds up to bad PR for the occupying force.
Don't forget either, Bush's cowboys are the "good" guys. Just don't try & tell the Indians that. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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How do you "know" the claims are false ??? Have you come across reports claiming the massacre of 3,000 unarmed Afghan prisoners was merely an "enemy" fabrication ??? You have "friends" who were there & will testify to it all being a mass conspiracy to frame the "innocent" & NOBLE Special US Forces ??? |
well your guy has micheal moore on his site just for starts he has been shown not to be a very credible sourse.
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Moreover, why has the mainstream US media to this point supressed reporting this alleged massacre ??? If it's NOT true an open & independent investigation ( like say a film documentary ) would surely help to answer a few lingering questions. |
I have read it before on CNN.
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As with the sadistic torture fiasco of Abugrahib and elsewhere, it all adds up to bad PR for the occupying force. |
It is bad PR but you don't know what happened.
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Don't forget either, Bush's cowboys are the "good" guys. Just don't try & tell the Indians that. |
Americans who killed the indians are all dead
Just remember The Taliban want to kill off others of other faiths so they would have killed the indians if they had the chance.
Comparing what the US did to the Indians to what the US war against the Talban fascists?
Gee you are sick to make light of the suffering and terror that native Americans suffered.
Oh well just goes to show you that Jeff Rense loving 9-11 conspiracy theorists will stoop to anything for their vile political goals. |
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