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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:29 am Post subject: 'Flytrap' not working |
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Study cites seeds of terror in Iraq
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The studies, which together constitute the most detailed picture available of foreign fighters, cast serious doubt on President Bush's claim that those responsible for some of the worst violence are terrorists who seized on the opportunity to make Iraq the ''central front" in a battle against the United States...
... "To say we must fight them in Baghdad so we don't have to fight them in Boston implies there is a finite number of people, and if you pen them up in Iraq you can kill them all," said [nonpartisan terrorism analyst Peter Bergen. ''The truth is we increased the pool by what we did in Iraq."
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In the run-up to the war I went back and forth, largely because I believed that Saddam might have had the capacity to produce nukes or bioweapons and give/sell them to bad guys. In the end though, I opposed the war because a) the long-term consequences had so much potential to be worse than the original problem, and b) I didn't trust Bush to do things competently.
When I think of everything the Bush team has failed to do, or attempted to do but totally screwed the pooch on, in the last 4 years, and the fact that nobody is being held accountable, I get madder than hell. al Qaeda may be weaker but it's likely only a matter of time at this rate for them to have 9/11-style capacity again. The world's opinion of us is lower now than on 9/11.]
Unless a miracle occurs in Iraq, this will be a failed presidency, one of the worst in US history. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Good article.
I never though the fly paper argument was that good, though I would bet that most of the militants coming into Iraq weren't exactly going to make nice being with.
One question? Can the security services of mideast natons crush Al Qaida? Most mideast nations are police states and most of the clerics are paid by the goverment. Mideast regimes are the masters of their domain they know who gets funded and what their elites and media do.
I would like to add the the US wasn't liked before 9-11. And that the US had the sympathy of the world after was pretty much a myth.
Is the situation really worse than it was. cause it was pretty bad before the Iraq war.
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Al-Qaeda camps 'trained 70,000'
Thousands are said to have joined al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan
Some 70,000 people received weapons training and religious instruction in al-Qaeda camps, German police say |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4146969.stm
This was while the US was defending muslim Kurds from Saddam and muslims in Kosovo from Slobidan .This was also while the US was trying to bring the Israeli and the Palestinian side together. |
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