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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: I'm at the "Shameless Ripoff Summer Camp" in Deagu |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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More news?
Please give us at least SOME news to read when you post something like this.
Who is getting ripped off? Teachers or parents? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek,
Everyone is getting ripped off. The parents, the kids the teachers.
They promised "math, science and literature". They are getting a way too easy English program with neither math nor science or literature. No, play, no speech and worse no water polo.
I thought Koreans just ripped the teachers off. They are ripping each other off. Its so sad.
I can't write more cuase I have to surf the net on my lunch time to find material and tonite I have a pay-each-day showdown. I'm supposed to get 200,000 a day. At least he has a nice truck I can vandalize.
If it looks to good to be true, it likely is.
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, is he paying you each day?
I think I saw this camp advertised.
A lot of the camps sold tons of parents on sending their kids there, but couldn't get foreign teachers. So, in effect, they are not able to follow through with the deal. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
Wow, is he paying you each day?
A lot of the camps sold tons of parents on sending their kids there, but couldn't get foreign teachers. So, in effect, they are not able to follow through with the deal. |
Tell me about it. I have gotten no less than ten calls this week from agents, friends; literally begging me to show up at their camps. I wonder if the parents will demand their money back. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| Derrek wrote: |
Wow, is he paying you each day?
A lot of the camps sold tons of parents on sending their kids there, but couldn't get foreign teachers. So, in effect, they are not able to follow through with the deal. |
Tell me about it. I have gotten no less than ten calls this week from agents, friends; literally begging me to show up at their camps. I wonder if the parents will demand their money back. |
Immigration 1 : Korean parents 0 |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to ame my own camp next year. Please pm me about the this daydream if are interested in the business plan/daydream. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I know our school promises small class sizes... 12 max. But they try to pack them in at times. I had one boy who was commanded by his mother to do a head count each class and make sure there were no more than 12. There were 14. 2 kids were moved. Even 12 kids is a chore, especially in a speaking class. In grammar or listening or reading, the kids have a lot of head down work. But in speaking they're mostly waiting for their turn to speak. So if the kid knows he's 12th in line, he whips out his pencil case with the loud built in game...
I should have thanked the kid but the puck head was a serious problem child and screwed around. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
| I want to ame my own camp next year. Please pm me about the this daydream if are interested in the business plan/daydream. |
Sounds cool. |
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deessell
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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And the current camp sounds illegal, based on the "new rules" that immigration rejected the camp for in the other thread on here.
Soooo typical... "new rules" are told to no one until they already plan an organize something like this, and find out when they try to get a permit, or when they are busted.
Keystone cops. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of the camps sold tons of parents on sending their kids there, but couldn't get foreign teachers. So, in effect, they are not able to follow through with the deal.
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... as far as I can remember last year there were lots of summer camp jobs out there offering return flight from point of departure and around 3.0 million/month.
... this year I couldn't find a single one willing to fly me from indonesia to Korea (although the pay is still pretty good). Why if there is such a huge rush for teachers, isn't the compenstation package going through the roof ? Because from where I'm standing it seems like it's getting worse ... |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of the camps sold tons of parents on sending their kids there, but couldn't get foreign teachers. So, in effect, they are not able to follow through with the deal.
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... as far as I can remember last year there were lots of summer camp jobs out there offering return flight from point of departure and around 3.0 million/month.
... this year I couldn't find a single one willing to fly me from indonesia to Korea (although the pay is still pretty good). Why if there is such a huge rush for teachers, isn't the compenstation package going through the roof ? Because from where I'm standing it seems like it's getting worse ... |
And they didn't find teachers.
What does that tell you will happen next year? Either no camp, or higher pay.
Personally, I think the gov't office plan is to make it difficult to have legal camps, and offer lots of 'Mini-camps" through GEPIK situations. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I know our school promises small class sizes... 12 max. But they try to pack them in at times. I had one boy who was commanded by his mother to do a head count each class and make sure there were no more than 12. There were 14. 2 kids were moved. Even 12 kids is a chore, especially in a speaking class. In grammar or listening or reading, the kids have a lot of head down work. But in speaking they're mostly waiting for their turn to speak. So if the kid knows he's 12th in line, he whips out his pencil case with the loud built in game...
I should have thanked the kid but the puck head was a serious problem child and screwed around. |
No offense, but you sound like a professional teacher. |
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