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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: Being taught Korean |
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Ok, so I am using my book and i am trying but my head is not built for languages.
I was in Itaewon today and saw that big billboard advertising Korean lessons in some womens university beginning with the letter S. Is it anygood (i know thats a horrendously little amount of info to go on :S) I also remember seeing someone post info on free K classes but I cant get the search engine to work on daves (my comp just goes to a white page with done in the corner).
Finally do u know if i could just get private tuition, if so what should i look for in a good tutor and what should i expect to pay?
Ta everso
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Sookmyoung. Near the light blue, dark blue, and, I think, # 7 subway lines. Saturdays, I believe. A couple more places scattered here and there (if I recall, Unesco in Myong-dong used to run some classes, and there's a place in ���з�).
As for the rest.
Probably nothing wrong with your head -- the problem is probably with your approach.
Private tutors are available and some are better than others. Prices are across the board, but 300,000 won a month for 16 hours is the price of the tutor I'm going to use from September. A word of caution though, most beginners are just wasting money for 1:1 tutoring. |
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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Sookmyong is right
Where can i find some more info on it?
Ta
And I agree with u on the 1:1 issues, i have 3 language excahnges too so i can use those for free too  |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I went to this class for a couple of months, it's pretty good. There are 4 levels, the classes are fairly small, and you get an hour and a half lesson for 1000 won. Can't beat the price. The only thing that didn't make sense to me there was, I was in level 3, and my instructor spoke English very well. But, the level 1 teacher couldn't speak English very well. It seems like they should switch those 2, but, hey, it's so cheap that it's definitely a good place to start. |
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d503

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Location: Daecheong, Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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I shall hop on my seoul KLA bandwagon
http://www.seoul-kla.com/eng/main_00.htm
THe Yonsei program is always talked up as well.
both programs are pricey but great quality |
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red dog

Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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A word of caution though, most beginners are just wasting money for 1:1 tutoring. |
Why? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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A word of caution though, most beginners are just wasting money for 1:1 tutoring. |
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Everybody's different and no doubt there are a few people who would benefit from this, but for a beginner the bulk of the time should be spent in practice, not study. Research shows that when people of different ability levels are together, the higher level dominates the interaction and the lower level person, even when communicating, uses a smaller range of the target language. When two people of a similar level are interacting there's a lot more negotiation of meaning and hence, a lot more useful practice.
Tutors are better for higher levels where the ability to communicate isn't an issue, but streamlining that ability is. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Everybody's different and no doubt there are a few people who would benefit from this, but for a beginner the bulk of the time should be spent in practice, not study. |
what does this mean?
and where do you get all this research?
i'm not trying to be contentious, i'm curious. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
| Private tutors are available and some are better than others. Prices are across the board, but 300,000 won a month for 16 hours is the price of the tutor I'm going to use from September. A word of caution though, most beginners are just wasting money for 1:1 tutoring. |
Do you know of any contact numbers? I am looking for a private tutor right now. I was going to make an advert in the ����� but if you have some contact numbers I would greatly appreciate you passing them on to me. Cheers in advance. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| the_beaver wrote: |
Everybody's different and no doubt there are a few people who would benefit from this, but for a beginner the bulk of the time should be spent in practice, not study. |
what does this mean?
and where do you get all this research?
i'm not trying to be contentious, i'm curious. |
It comes down to different people have different styles and needs, but in general most beginners should spend less time on the mechanics and more time on actually using language.
Usually I find a point of interest in a linguistics book and follow it up. This information in particular I found in Ellis and was quoted from Porter. Unfortunately, the online databases I use don't have Porter so I can't give direct quotes.
I'm really big on learner autonomy and effective study styles and techniques so when I come across these things I often look up the original research. Although tutors weren't mentioned directly in the research I read, the situation has been. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Do you know of any contact numbers? I am looking for a private tutor right now. I was going to make an advert in the ����� but if you have some contact numbers I would greatly appreciate you passing them on to me. Cheers in advance. |
http://www.ltrc.co.kr/eng/courses/courses01.asp |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| I think you are mad to pay for Korean lessons in Korea. There are so many people that will give you free language exchanges. If you structure the exchange to make the most of it you can just as much knowledge as you would from a course for free. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| I think you are mad to pay for Korean lessons in Korea. There are so many people that will give you free language exchanges. If you structure the exchange to make the most of it you can just as much knowledge as you would from a course for free. |
There's truth in some of that, but in my experience most language exchanges are just preludes to a *beep*. Nothing wrong with that but it does take the structure out of the exchange.
Real tutors come with material prepared and the relationship stays professional because of the payment. |
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red dog

Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Do you know of any contact numbers? I am looking for a private tutor right now. I was going to make an advert in the ����� but if you have some contact numbers I would greatly appreciate you passing them on to me. Cheers in advance. |
http://www.ltrc.co.kr/eng/courses/courses01.asp |
Thanks for the link -- I think it's too late for me to benefit from it, but you never know. |
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