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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: Over at EFL-Law, interesting news |
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Posted by efl-law guy:
We have made some substantial steps on our end towards a HELP CENTRE.
We are in negotiations to set one up which will provide phone help 7/7 and drop in help. 6/7
Issues to be resolved include
(a) Korean Immigration permission
(b) Korean Law Society permission
(c) some funding for equipment (phone -fax -computer etc) all staff wil be volunteers hence no $ there..
We plan a pilot project for 3 months (kick off date not known yet) later this year....The pilot project will probably run from Pusan - if it works we will move to Seoul..
to work we need the support of the teaching profession....we have about 2,100 members registered on this site - that is 20% of all teachers in Korea. I think we will need at least 50% support - simply becuase the office deal (piggy backing off an International Health Care company) requires us to send out bi-monthly newsleters - with some promo for the health insurance company as the quid pro quo
Other costs will occur but we hope to start getting some banner advertisng for this site (efl-law.com and efl-law.org) will soon merge ----
Obviously the goal (tried before and failed) is to build up a fund which can be put towards issues that need resolving for teachers.....
We are open to all suggestions of course... if anyone is a member over at Dave's then if they could help start the ball rolling - step (a) build this site's membership to the 50% mark noted above is priority one...
I will have further discussions with Congressman Ju shortly - to see what help Congress can throw our way -- after all, APEC is coming - the timing is good --
From Inkoreaforgood:
I think that this is the closest we'll ever get to a good thing, as a group, here in Korea. Plus, if you haven't checked out this website already, you are missing out on some useful info. Go to http://efl-law.org/forums/index.php , register, and help yourself and others. |
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livinginkorea
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think that the website is brilliant and we badly need it to keep us informed. It helps a lot more than here to be honest. Here people take guesses. There people know what to do. I just hope that it won't become like this site with it's politics and trolls 
A help center would be a great idea. I'm all for it! |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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man that website was not only horrible but apparently has taken major steps in the direction of worse. before it was officially "run" and "narrated" by one guy. his replies were often obnoxiously bland and overly common sense "you shouldn't teach privates because that is illegal, if you want to teach extra classes you should have immigration approve of it first, otherwise it could mean trouble... if you are teaching only privates now then you are advised to leave the country." But at least the guy had a "lawyer" qualification and from I hear it wasn't much.
Now it's membership only, they have moderators and guess who it is!? Bozo Yoroshiku! Back in the day when I used that site for immigration trouble that clown was first to hound your messages -- drunk and posting. I can only remember thinking "wow he really is a bozo, just like his name." Goodbye efl-law. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| obnoxiously bland and overly common sense |
Interesting. I've never seen/heard anyone use those descriptors with those words.
I suppose if I were to ask a lawyer to advise me on ways to get around obeying the law, I might get frustrated at being told to just shut up and obey the law. On second thought, why shouldn't we get free advice on how to evade Korean law? Aren't we entitled? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Does EFL Law help bail out teachers who drink too much and assault Koreans? I think there's a niche market there that might be explored.
Sparkles*_* |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:55 am Post subject: |
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We are all entitled to free advice on how to scam our bosses, work illegally, duck out on contracts, and many other a nefarious deeds. However, being that EFL law appears to be more of a service for the "LEGAL" resolution of the efl teachers many difficulties then I am having a brainstorm.
Yep lets disregard any or all hard work put into EFL starting a call center, and then lets start our own forum.
It will be titled, 'HOW TO SCREW THE KOREANS, THEN WEASAL OUT WHEN YOU GET BUSTED.'
www.givethemnastygimichieatingscuzsuckerstheshaft.com
ps. We don't require signing up just something like a percentage off all your privates money. A small taste, just to wet the beak. (Godfather 3) |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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man that website was not only horrible but apparently has taken major steps in the direction of worse. before it was officially "run" and "narrated" by one guy. his replies were often obnoxiously bland and overly common sense "you shouldn't teach privates because that is illegal, if you want to teach extra classes you should have immigration approve of it first, otherwise it could mean trouble... if you are teaching only privates now then you are advised to leave the country." But at least the guy had a "lawyer" qualification and from I hear it wasn't much.
Now it's membership only, they have moderators and guess who it is!? Bozo Yoroshiku! Back in the day when I used that site for immigration trouble that clown was first to hound your messages -- drunk and posting. I can only remember thinking "wow he really is a bozo, just like his name." Goodbye efl-law. |
Bitter much??
Your post is laughable. Hypocritical. Spelling errors. For a post only a few lines long, you managed to make your own post worthless, by spouting bitterness and untruths.
Some people become sad individuals, some start from sad and then go downhill.
Last edited by inkoreaforgood on Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. Seems a pity this isn't going to happen. |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| inkoreaforgood wrote: |
| Your post is laughable. Hypocritical. Spelling errors. |
Your snobbiness. And lack of realism. Are. more laughable. Than. the errors. you accuse. me of.
You also seem like a. hypocrit. to me. and. other people.
Geez what does a guy get these days for speaking the truth? At least my comments mark the truth. But unfortunately not in a coded. intellectual manner that you secretly hint. of. possessing. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Does EFL law take donations? preferably via paypal? I think that would be a great way for the community to support one another and ensure that EFL Law is around when you are in need of help. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Does EFL law take donations? preferably via paypal? I think that would be a great way for the community to support one another and ensure that EFL Law is around when you are in need of help. |
You do remember that little fiasco with the crazy lady that occured a year or two ago, right? The crazy chick whom the EFL Law guy(s) supported?
Maybe giving them money via Paypal isn't the best idea.
Sparkles*_* |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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man that website was not only horrible but apparently has taken major steps in the direction of worse. before it was officially "run" and "narrated" by one guy. his replies were often obnoxiously bland and overly common sense "you shouldn't teach privates because that is illegal, if you want to teach extra classes you should have immigration approve of it first, otherwise it could mean trouble... if you are teaching only privates now then you are advised to leave the country." But at least the guy had a "lawyer" qualification and from I hear it wasn't much.
Now it's membership only, they have moderators and guess who it is!? Bozo Yoroshiku! Back in the day when I used that site for immigration trouble that clown was first to hound your messages -- drunk and posting. I can only remember thinking "wow he really is a bozo, just like his name." Goodbye efl-law. |
I agree with most of what you said. EFL might know about the law but as for advice, site mods, and ability to help I would certainly question that. The only help they are seeking is help for themselves. I e-mailed directly with important questions and never received a response. And, I was/am one person who needs serious law help. I don't expect any advice from that site and if they did respond the advice would probably be weak at best. What is the old saying about lawyers, low down what? I don't know about Bozo's drinking habits but once it responded to me accusing me of making an attacking statement which was all B.S. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| cellphone wrote: |
| inkoreaforgood wrote: |
| Your post is laughable. Hypocritical. Spelling errors. |
Your snobbiness. And lack of realism. Are. more laughable. Than. the errors. you accuse. me of.
You also seem like a. hypocrit. to me. and. other people.
Geez what does a guy get these days for speaking the truth? At least my comments mark the truth. But unfortunately not in a coded. intellectual manner that you secretly hint. of. possessing. |
Coded intellectual manner. Hmm. Well, code certainly wasn't intended. Perhaps just your own viewpoint.
As for speaking the truth, I don't see it. Your post was an attack, based on personal experience. And as you haven't shared the particulars at all, I really can't say whether it contains any basis in fact or if it's even possible. I don't deny your situation, just have no idea from your post what it was...
To break the code for you, I stated that your post was self-defeating, in that it was poorly thrown together. I was trying to use short sentences for your benefit, anyways.
When you repeatedly "use" quotes, why do you think you are being clear and precise? Perhaps you don't, how can I know.
"Efl-law guy" is singular, ie, only one person. That's why a help center for foriegners with legal difficulties is important and useful for us. He can't help everyone, or give the level of help necessary for each person. People want help, but they never plan to be in trouble. They go to work on the other side of the world without a clue about the law here, how to get help, how to do anything to improve a situation. Then they need help, and if they don't get that from the one person who tries, then their attitude is "screw that guy, he didn't help me at all". But I guess that doesn't sound familiar to you, does it?
Hope that you can understand this message, cp. I tried to use more quotes, just for you!! |
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howie2424
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:36 am Post subject: |
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The bottom line here is EFL Guy is selflessly offering his own time to help people out and to make some political efforts on our behalf. So why not just spend the 5 or 6 minutes it takes to go over there and register and help the guy out. Geez, is there anything on this board that doesn't degenerate into sophmoric bickering or an all out flamefest?  |
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mysteriousdeltarays
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Food Pyramid Bldg. 5F, 77 Sunset Strip, Alphaville
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I liked the site at first. In reality, sue the school, they call immigration and have you deported as whatever they can dream up.
It's a nice illusion. That's all. Worse than that a dangerous delusion.
It might be okay if you work for a major corporation. I've noticed the guy always wants money. |
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