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Industrial Strength



Joined: 02 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Can someone help me out with this...Part II? Reply with quote

AOpen XC cube EZ65 II

i'm interested in buying a very small desktop such as the one above for basic usage. i've checked prices on danawa, but i'm not sure what is included in the price they have online. it's obvious there are components missing, but i'm not sure what hardware is left for me to buy and install.

can someone have a look at the box and tell me what else i would have to buy to make this a complete system? peripherals are obivous, but what about inside the machine?

thanks,
is


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Bunnymonster



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Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume its a barebones system like the shuttles (one of which I own). If so it will be just the case, power supply and motherboard. You'll need to provide the drives, CPU, memory and maybe a graphics card depending on if you think the onboard graphics are suitable for your needs.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me out with this...? Reply with quote

Industrial Strength wrote:
AOpen XC cube EZ65 II

i'm interested in buying a very small desktop such as the one above for basic usage. i've checked prices on danawa, but i'm not sure what is included in the price they have online. it's obvious there are components missing, but i'm not sure what hardware is left for me to buy and install.

can someone have a look at the box and tell me what else i would have to buy to make this a complete system? peripherals are obivous, but what about inside the machine?

thanks,
is


Click on the third tab. Looks like it's box, motherboard, power supply, some basic cables, and heatsink/fan only. You'd need to buy the CPU, hard-drive, Ram, OS, Floppy drive, and CD Drive. There is onboard video, but if you're a gamer, you should buy a better video card. Here are the motherboard specs:

Model
EZ65 II

SIZE (mm)
320(W) X 200(D) X 185(H)

CHIP
Intel865G / ICH5

CPU
TYPE
Socket 478

FSB
400 / 533 / 800

MEMORY
TYPE
DDR x 2

DDR
266 / 333 / 400

VGA
OnDie (8X AGP)

PCI
1

SOUND
AC97 5.1CH

LAN
10 / 100 / 1000Mbps

ATA Connector
ATA100 x 2

SATA Connector
SATA x 2

USB 2.0
2(Rear) / 2(Front)

IEEE1394
1(Rear) / 2(Front) (6/4pins)

CASE
5.25"
1

3.5"
1

HDD Bay
1

SPS
275W (w/8cmFAN)
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Industrial Strength



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks bunnymonster.

i checked on the items you mentioned.

115,000 - p4 cpu
60,000 - dvd/cd
90,000 - 512 ram
95,000 - 200gb drive
270,000 - cube box

for a total of 630,000 give or take 50,000.
is that a pretty good deal for one of these compact systems? or could i save a lot of money buying a typical desktop?

thanks,
is

ps. by "basic usage", i mean internet, word processing, minimal photo work, downloading and video viewing.


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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad deal. If you buy a complete cube computer with 17" LCD monitor, you'll be spending around 1.1 million won from Carrefor. Just saw a samsung model like that. Similar specs.

You have a copy of Windows, right? You'll have to buy that. Also, whatever other programs you need.

Looks like you should get a serial ATA hard drive with that, and you may as well get a DVD burner, because they're down to under 50,000 at Youngsan for an OEM one. You'd need to buy/steal software though.

And unless you just want to do this as a hobby, I'd suggest you have them put it together. I did my first few by myself, but next time, I will probably just pay them the mere 20,000 won it costs to have them do it.

Your ram price seemed a little high, unless you're planning on higher quality ram.
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Industrial Strength



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
Not a bad deal. If you buy a complete cube computer with 17" LCD monitor, you'll be spending around 1.1 million won from Carrefor. Just saw a samsung model like that. Similar specs.

You have a copy of Windows, right? You'll have to buy that. Also, whatever other programs you need.

Looks like you should get a serial ATA hard drive with that, and you may as well get a DVD burner, because they're down to under 50,000 at Youngsan for an OEM one. You'd need to buy/steal software though.

And unless you just want to do this as a hobby, I'd suggest you have them put it together. I did my first few by myself, but next time, I will probably just pay them the mere 20,000 won it costs to have them do it.

Your ram price seemed a little high, unless you're planning on higher quality ram.


i've got all the sw i want/need. correct about the ram. looking for something dependable, but might go cheaper. thinking about a dvd burner...but i hate buying just the cheapest available, and don't want to spend more for a dvd burner. i'd like to assemble myself, but time is short and i want it up and running sooner rather than later.

why serial ATA instead of the usual IDE? i'm not very knowledgeable about drives.

thanks,
is
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Industrial Strength



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for checking the details for me derrek.

not a gamer at all, so the onboard graphics should be enough for watching movies.
is
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serial ATA has a higher bandwidth. And the cable is smaller and easier to work with, I believe.

And as far as DVD Burners go... don't worry about going cheap. The cheap ones I saw OEM were by LG. And LG makes some of the better DVD burners out there, anyway.

And the reason they are so cheap is because they are OEM and lack the software.
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Naruto



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't pay too much for this though, it's decent now but it doesn't upgrade much. Meaning in a couple of years it'll be good for nostalgia and maybe as a good fish bowl. This is a copy of the Apple G4 Cube by the way.
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Industrial Strength



Joined: 02 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice.

i'm not to worried about cutting edge technology on this thing.
im setting it up for my mother so she can email, chat and do some word processing. it doesn't have to be able to launch rockets.

i've got my own system and i didn't skimp on that. Wink
is
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naruto wrote:
I wouldn't pay too much for this though, it's decent now but it doesn't upgrade much. Meaning in a couple of years it'll be good for nostalgia and maybe as a good fish bowl. This is a copy of the Apple G4 Cube by the way.



Which will soon be a copy of itself then! Wink
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
And the cable is smaller and easier to work with, I believe.

Good god yes!
Not such a big deal since they came out with round IDE cables, but it makes you wonder WTF they were smoking when they made those first ribbon cables that always seemed to be half an inch shorter than you needed, or that you had to twist in wierd configurations to get the damned things to fit...
The connector is more like the connector on the cable that runs from your Cd drive to sound card.
But of course no one is buying SATA for the cables; as you say, it's all about throughput.
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Industrial Strength



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved my questions here
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=598711#598711
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