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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: World's first cloned dog! |
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say hi to Snuppy (named after SNU)
Snuppy is an Afghan hound and around 100 days old
in the middle with his clone 'dad' on the left and his surrogate mom on the right
full article here
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if it's such a big deal with pureabreds but...
it sure would be happy news to those who have had beloved dogs who were a Heinz 57 mix of several breeds
this is echoing several sci-fi scripts
(but that's what science fiction is all about) |
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stalinsdad
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
Location: Jeonju
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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It said on CNN that 1100 eggs were used and only one was successful-Snuppy!!!
How many dogs did they use????
If the next experiment is on humans is that not murder of potentially a thousand or more lives?
I'm not sure that it is something to be proud of!!! |
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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| They implanted 1,095 cloned embryos into 123 dogs and just three pregnancies resulted.....One fetus miscarried, and one puppy died of pneumonia 22 days after birth. |
and human reproductive cloning is banned in Korea |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Stalinsdad: I was thinking the same thing. How many abominations preceded this one successful one?
Yeah, human cloning is banned here and in other parts, but someone somewhere is probably working on a human clone, and the cloning community is probably a small one...so does it really matter in which national boundary the human cloning is carried out...unless we're splitting hairs, I don't think it does.
By the way, anyone remember Alien 4...? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| One thing about President Roh: he is not an anti-science ideologue like the U.S. president. |
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krats1976
Joined: 14 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| ...someone somewhere is probably working on a human clone.. |
You're way behind the times dude... aintcha heard of the Raelians?  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard something about a claim, but was not sure that they had actually produced the clone for us to evaluate... |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Seems like the Americans are helping Korean Academics to do research that would be deemed controversial in the States. A new concept of outsourcing R&D. |
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krats1976
Joined: 14 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| I heard something about a claim, but was not sure that they had actually produced the clone for us to evaluate... |
Yeah...that's the reason for the |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
| Seems like the Americans are helping Korean Academics to do research that would be deemed controversial in the States. A new concept of outsourcing R&D. |
My point exactly. It's a small community of people who are working on this technology. They are more like a transnational corporation than isolated national pockets of researchers.
If I were ever to suspect a conspiracy theory, this would be it. -- where's Igotthisguitar?
They appear to be gradually conditioning us to except the idea of clones -- mice, sheep, now a dog. On the one hand, it's a kind of sustained public relations campaign to defeat convervative fears. On the other hand, there's something very subversive about it, esp. when there are places where they can legally do the research...still not entirely clear who's funding it all, eitherl. |
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krats1976
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| ...still not entirely clear who's funding it all, eitherl. |
The Illuminati?
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| ed4444 wrote: |
| Seems like the Americans are helping Korean Academics to do research that would be deemed controversial in the States. A new concept of outsourcing R&D. |
My point exactly. It's a small community of people who are working on this technology. They are more like a transnational corporation than isolated national pockets of researchers.
If I were ever to suspect a conspiracy theory, this would be it. -- where's Igotthisguitar?
They appear to be gradually conditioning us to except the idea of clones -- mice, sheep, now a dog. On the one hand, it's a kind of sustained public relations campaign to defeat convervative fears. On the other hand, there's something very subversive about it, esp. when there are places where they can legally do the research...still not entirely clear who's funding it all, eitherl. |
I'm surprised that the US (or other anti-human cloning countries) haven't introduced laws banning the flow of knowledge and human efforts to other areas that don't have anti-cloning laws. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| i can see it now. A standoff over the North Korean clone army. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| FUBAR wrote: |
| I'm surprised that the US (or other anti-human cloning countries) haven't introduced laws banning the flow of knowledge and human efforts to other areas that don't have anti-cloning laws. |
As Washington learned a long time ago, with respect to nuclear fission and atomic weapons, you can't classify or suppress scientific information no matter how hard you try.
That's why, I think, human cloning is inevitable... |
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