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mithridates
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Gopher
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| Excellent video. Where do you come up with all these links? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Excellent video. Where do you come up with all these links? |
probably from me. The only diff is that people ignore them when I post them cos I'm an extremist.
I already posted about ten vids of
*carbombings
*ambushes
*Snipers getting shot
*Interviews with insurgents
*spy vids from inside mosques featuring some extreme sermons
*beheadings
etc etc.
But it takes a liberal to have cred.
ok..some interesting ones on here-
http://www.islamic-news.co.uk/
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mithridates
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I usually use the computer to study or work and I get bored quite often, plus I stay away from partisan sites. I find quite a bit on Wikipedia as well. Actually I found something really good there today but it's a secret for about two more days. 
Washington Post is going to have two more videos on related subjects tomorrow and the next day. I love how they have the videos imbedded into the site as there's nothing worse than having to use somethng gay like Realplayer. I've taken it off my computer. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Rapier, I'm not a liberal. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:46 am Post subject: |
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That was a good video. I've seen this guy on TV as an 'expert' they call in for commentary. He's always insightful.
Thank you for my Sunday morning chuckle, rapier:
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probably from me. The only diff is that people ignore them when I post them cos I'm an extremist.
I already posted about ten vids of
*carbombings
*ambushes
*Snipers getting shot
*Interviews with insurgents
*spy vids from inside mosques featuring some extreme sermons
*beheadings
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From my perspective, it isn't the videos of these atrocities that was central to what the guy was saying. He was talking about the perception that Moslems are getting via the internet that the West is corrupting their culture and they can 'win' by blowing themselves up. I felt his key point was said just before the end: it went something like this--"The last thing we want to do is push the moderate Moslems or those on the edge, over to the extremists". My observation is that 99% of what you say is designed to do exactly that. OK, I'm exaggerating. Only 97%.
Another thing. He mentioned shutting down these sites only to have more pop up the next day and the matter of free speech. Another of these experts was on and said it may be wiser to leave them alone so they can be monitored more easily rather than shut them down and then go search for the new ones.
The weirdest thing on the video: the server was in North Carolina. ! ! ! |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| I also like how this has been his specialty since 1996. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I felt his key point was said just before the end: it went something like this--"The last thing we want to do is push the moderate Moslems or those on the edge, over to the extremists".
My observation is that 99% of what you say is designed to do exactly that. OK, I'm exaggerating. Only 97%. |
Exactly. And the sad thing is that if you recognize this danger and speak out against proposals/policies which engender it you get labelled "Liberal" and soft on terrorism. Refusing to look at the consequences of our actions and smoothering debate on how to deal with terrorism also play into the hands of extremeists. Sad and frustrating that some here can't see this. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I felt his key point was said just before the end: it went something like this--"The last thing we want to do is push the moderate Moslems or those on the edge, over to the extremists".
My observation is that 99% of what you say is designed to do exactly that. OK, I'm exaggerating. Only 97%. |
Exactly. And the sad thing is that if you recognize this danger and speak out against proposals/policies which engender it you get labelled "Liberal" and soft on terrorism. Refusing to look at the consequences of our actions and smoothering debate on how to deal with terrorism also play into the hands of extremeists. Sad and frustrating that some here can't see this. |
Even if the west pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, stopped supporting israel, and allowed in even more muslim immigrants, do you think the attacks would stop? No.it would increase. by his very nature as proscribed in the Koran, a muslim cannot be friends with a non muslim.
The aim of islam is world domination. The very fact that we are infidels makes us fair game for conquest: and our percieved weakness only encourages more aggression. |
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mithridates
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Rapier, I'm not a liberal. |
Likely not ( whatever of course the speaker means by "liberal" )  but it's a quick & easy "label" any 5 year year old can throw out at someone when crying sour grapes or simply if nothing better comes to mind.
Because of my "political" leaning nobody gives me credit for all the bloody videos i post ... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!  |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: |
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by his very nature as proscribed in the Koran, a muslim cannot be friends with a non muslim.
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By his very nature any person born in a country that is part of the Judeo-Christian West:
1. Cannot swear
2. Cannot commit adultery
3. Always honors his parents
4. Never covets
5. Never lies
6. Always turns the other cheek
7. etc.
Right, rapier? |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
Even if the west pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, stopped supporting israel, and allowed in even more muslim immigrants, do you think the attacks would stop? No.it would increase. by his very nature as proscribed in the Koran, a muslim cannot be friends with a non muslim.
The aim of islam is world domination. The very fact that we are infidels makes us fair game for conquest: and our percieved weakness only encourages more aggression. |
Your world view is a zero sum game, and it seems to me that the logical conclusion of your worldview is armageddon- a battle against all muslims everywhere in the world until they are wiped out. I think that's a preposterous and paranoid view, and even worse a very dangerous one that might just become a self-fulfilling prophecy. You should be hoping for all our sakes that you're wrong, but you seem to be gleefully marching down this path a trying to pull the rest of us along. |
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