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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: "Candy-bar" phones |
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I hate shell phones. I want my Nokia back!
Does anybody know where I can buy a "candy-bar" hand phone? |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I have one...it is one of those slide phones though but similar kind of thing....
They are made by Samsung...also come in english too |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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yeah I don't like these folding ones either...
I much prefer my Nokia. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| To those who don't like the clamshells what are their disadvantages, and/or what are the advantages of the 'candy bar' models? I'm just curious as I may be shopping for a new phone soon. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Imagine having a baby in one arm and trying to answer the phone with the other - and opening it to answer the call.
It's a nightmare. |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| To those who don't like the clamshells what are their disadvantages, and/or what are the advantages of the 'candy bar' models? I'm just curious as I may be shopping for a new phone soon. |
Yeah I'd like to get a solid phone too, Nokia phones rock.
The weakness of 'clamshell' style phones is they break, my old Nokia6210 in the UK was light, small, had a larger battery and a very long battery life. I dropped the damn thing many times onto concrete when it jumped out of a shirt pocket when running or fell of a table onto a hard floor, the screen never even broke. I've had lots of friends with broken screens and their usually clamshell types.
I used to work in the mobile industry and most of my clients who were business people who used their phones a lot for their businesses hated the clamshell style phones. They'd always raise hell when they asked for a triband phone and the only one we had was a motorala, 'urgh, those things always break! Haven't you got a Nokia triband?' I must of had that conversation 50 times at least.
How much are Nokias here? I'd like one. I remember seeing ads for one non clam a while ago and it was bloody expensive.
Looking at the Nokia site now and all the phones on there are clams 
If I could get something like a 8800 that would work in Korea would be great. I dont want a camera on my phone, I dont want an MP3 player I just want a decent small functional phone. |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nokia and the CDMA industry don't really get on that well... I'm surprised they don't have any candybars right now - what website are you looking at, Keith?
If you can put up with slides, there are loads of them here. I've not seen any candy bars though, other than the almost-candy bar I hired from Incheon airport once (*shudder*). |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| hypnotist wrote: |
Nokia and the CDMA industry don't really get on that well... I'm surprised they don't have any candybars right now - what website are you looking at, Keith?
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Nokia ain't getting along with Korea on many levels....
You know how TU Media (sister company to SK telecom) is broadcasting Satellite television to DMB enabled phones? Basically, it's LG and Samsung that are promoting the DMB platform for mobile broadcasting...
But Nokia and Ericsson are investing heavily in the DVB-T platform, which is less efficient, and by all accounts just "behind" DMB in terms of how advanced the technology is.
Korea is now the only country with DMB enabled handphones. Japan has it too, but only to tv terminals in cars and such. (We have those here, too.)
It seems like the european HP manufacturers want to lock out the Korean phone makers of european broadcasting/telecoms convergence. Interestingly though, Samsung now sells more HPs in France than any european manufacturer..... They may just be grasping at straws here.
Simone
All over broadcasting/telecomms convergence |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| simone wrote: |
| hypnotist wrote: |
Nokia and the CDMA industry don't really get on that well... I'm surprised they don't have any candybars right now - what website are you looking at, Keith?
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Nokia ain't getting along with Korea on many levels.... |
I didn't just mean Korea. I actually had the American market in mind. But you're right.
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You know how TU Media (sister company to SK telecom) is broadcasting Satellite television to DMB enabled phones? Basically, it's LG and Samsung that are promoting the DMB platform for mobile broadcasting...
But Nokia and Ericsson are investing heavily in the DVB-T platform, which is less efficient, and by all accounts just "behind" DMB in terms of how advanced the technology is. |
Aah, careful who you talk to  I was one of the leading players in bringing the first Nokia DVB-H phone (the 7710) to market.
It's DVB-H that the Europeans are investing in, not DVB-T (which drains the battery of the handset far too fast - I believe it was trialled in Singapore though).
DMB is more or less a variant of DAB, and isn't quite as closely designed for video as DVB-H. Both are recognised by standards bodies, but DVB-H is more efficient, not less. There's a good discussion paper here.
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| Korea is now the only country with DMB enabled handphones. Japan has it too, but only to tv terminals in cars and such. (We have those here, too.) |
DVB-H enabled handsets already sell in Europe - however, the services to use them on aren't publicly available yet...
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| It seems like the european HP manufacturers want to lock out the Korean phone makers of european broadcasting/telecoms convergence. Interestingly though, Samsung now sells more HPs in France than any european manufacturer..... They may just be grasping at straws here. |
Nokia is still easily the biggest player in the European market. Easily. Their market share isn't far off Motorola and Samsung combined...
There are also issues with using DMB in Europe due to the currently crammed DAB spectrum (not a problem in Korea). I'm not sure how that could easily be solved.
'tist.. consultant to the mobile industry since 2000. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Just last night I was talking about cell phones, and one of my wife's friends mentioned that the slide phones are notorious for breaking. I don't know if that's reliable, but that's what she claimed.
I've always had the clamshell style (Samsung), and never once had a problem. It's not too hard to open with one hand, either.
Sparkles*_* |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
Just last night I was talking about cell phones, and one of my wife's friends mentioned that the slide phones are notorious for breaking. I don't know if that's reliable, but that's what she claimed.
I've always had the clamshell style (Samsung), and never once had a problem. It's not too hard to open with one hand, either.
Sparkles*_* |
Yep slide phones break to. I used to have a nokia 7110 and the first lot that came out were pretty unreliable, the 6210 rapidly eclipsed it in popularity. I had a client who was doing business in Egypt and the phone was supposed to hang up when you slide the mouthpiece section in, it didn't hang up and he had a twelve hour roaming call. Very expensive, the bill came to several hundred quid! Had to kick that one up stairs to management to deal with that one.
Here's the Nokia website for Korea to anyone who is interested...
http://www.nokia.co.kr/nokia/0,,56353,00.html
CDMA is weird. Why not just use GSM, then you can use your phone in pretty much any country in the world, even America if you got a triband. |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hory clap. Those handsets look old.
I didn't even realise Nokia had a market presence here.
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| CDMA is weird. Why not just use GSM, then you can use your phone in pretty much any country in the world, even America if you got a triband. |
That old chestnut... many reasons. Political, technical, financial, historical... everywhere is going UMTS (the 3G follow-on of GSM), though. Europe, US, Japan, even Korea. I hope SK or KTF sign some roaming agreements soon. |
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jurassic5
Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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this LG Cyon came out in '04. it goes for around 150,000 or 99,000 if you are new to sign up.
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everybody.
Jurassic, that looks the one. Now investigating whether that has an English menu and if I can have that with my present 018 number .... |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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You're right - DVB-H
Just learning all these new acronyms since June - but I *Did* know that. Really. 
What TU media is doing is still closer to DAB than to DMB, but I gather that when the terrestrial DMB starts up in the fall, that'll be the real deal.
Cheers! |
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