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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: Want to lose over 10 lbs/month? Eat at McDonald's Reply with quote

A lady in NC was upset at the movie, "Supersize Me" so she decided to do the same thing, except be smarter with her food choices. In 90 days, she lost 37 lbs.

Mickey D's Diet
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Hank Scorpio



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Want to lose over 10 lbs/month? Eat at McDonald's Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
A lady in NC was upset at the movie, "Supersize Me" so she decided to do the same thing, except be smarter with her food choices. In 90 days, she lost 37 lbs.

Mickey D's Diet


I don't doubt it. Look folks, McDonald's has sold salads for something like 10 years now. If you decide you'd rather have the supersized quarterpounder with cheese then that's your bad.

That's what I don't like about Spurlog, or his new jackass show. I dislike it intensely when ill-informed, loudmouth douches like he and Moore masquerade as documentarists when really they're propagandists.
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chipotle



Joined: 30 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually know Soso by association. I've dog-sat for her a few times for her huge deerhound "Falstaff" (whom she recently gave back to the breeder because of his health, guess McDonalds didn't work for him, but I think she still has 2 deerhounds). Kind of cool what she did, though- Supersize me was just way too narrow-minded, and this is coming from a girl who detests McDonalds! She's definitely got some interesting views, but she is kind of loony.
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jlb



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work at McDonalds in high school and in general:

The obese people would be in there everytime I worked, ordering a Big Mac meal or double quarter pounder meal supersized with regular coke.

The slim people would not be regulars and they'd maybe order a small cheeseburger, small fries, a salad and a water.

People are stupid....it's not Mickey D's that's to blame for obesity, it's poor food choices.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That lady missed the whole point of the Supersize Me. Spurlock made it very clear that he was ordering every single item off the menu at least once, and that every time someone offered a supersize, he'd take it. It was to show that McDonald's makes it very easy to go for the unhealthier option.

That said, I think a lot of his weight gain was due to the shock on his body. Going from a healthy vegan diet to straight McDonald's grease is gonna wreck your body, of course. For people with not so healthy diets, but good metabolism or a good exercise regime, it woudn't have the same effect.

It was entertaining, though. I'm skeptical about Morgan's video's entertainment value.
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Hank Scorpio



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Going from a healthy vegan diet to straight McDonald's grease is gonna wreck your body, of course.


There's no such thing as a "healthy" vegan diet. We are omnivores, deal with it.
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RachaelRoo



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hank Scorpio wrote:
Qinella wrote:
Going from a healthy vegan diet to straight McDonald's grease is gonna wreck your body, of course.


There's no such thing as a "healthy" vegan diet. We are omnivores, deal with it.


Ok - what are you basing this on? Not the part about us being omnivores, but when you claim that there is no such thing as a healthy vegan diet.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the article:

Morgan, from Raleigh, thought the documentary had unfairly targeted the world's largest restaurant company, implying that the obese were victims of a careless corporate giant.

I know careless can mean indifferent, but I would have used "uncaring" there for clarity's sake. To me, careless is when I misplace my keys, or when I park too close to the car beside me and I can't open my door.
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. I never had any desire to watch this "documentary" for several reasons. One, I prefer to learn something by watching a documentary. Didn't we all pretty much know that eating three meals of fast food every day is not good for you? Perhaps if this had been done 20 years ago it would have meant something. Also, as mentioned by others, it depends a great deal on what the individual orders. Finally, I'm sick of people picking on McDonald's. It's not just fast food, it's restaurant food. If you ate three meals a day at a typical family restaurant, ate everything on the menu at least once, and ordered a dessert everytime the waitress suggested the idea, I bet you would gain just as much weight. I've always felt that McDonald's has done a pretty good job of listening to their customers throughout the years whether that meant offering salads, wraps, McLean Delux (remember?) changing to vegetable shortening, getting rid of the styrofoam and using more recyclable and recycled materials and so on. They are picked on mostly because they're the biggest (good thing that only happens to businesses and not countries) and are seen as a symbol of big business, Americanization, and globalization.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
Morgan, from Raleigh, thought the documentary had unfairly targeted the world's largest restaurant company, implying that the obese were victims of a careless corporate giant.

I know careless can mean indifferent, but I would have used "uncaring" there for clarity's sake. To me, careless is when I misplace my keys, or when I park too close to the car beside me and I can't open my door.


This is part of a larger trend that exists in a very old debate in Western Civ, going at least as far back as the nineteenth century, particularly manifest in U.S. civil law in the present day, partly because of the insane amount of money awarded to plaintiffs via "punative damages."

Here's the ultimate issue: are people to be held accountable for the decisions they make in life, that is, do we give people credit for being able to decide for themselves, even when there are negative consequences (for example, obesity and lung cancer)?

or do we adopt a very paternalistic posture towards people, and blame corporations like McDonalds or Phillip Morris for manipulating them through clever advertising campaigns and other means?

Whose fault is it? (Bear in mind that whatever your answer is, certain consequences about free will and rationality follow...)

Personally, I think adults, at least, assume the risk, and we should acknowledge that adults don't usually make rational choices in life. People have mosty known that fast food is unhealthy for a long time. We have also known for a long time that smoking is at least unhealthy (even though the Surgeon General did not link smoking to lung cancer until 1968 or so).

That is, we are smart enough to know not to run down the wet aisle in the grocery store whether they put up warning signs or not. We should know not to attempt to clean a moving ceiling fan regardless of the failure to tell us not to do this in the instruction manual. We should know that it is not safe to attempt to dry kittens off by putting them in a microwave, and it is unreasonable that a microwave manufacterer should anticipate this and be punished for not warning us about it...(these are all real California cases, by the way.)
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
Yeah. I never had any desire to watch this "documentary" for several reasons. One, I prefer to learn something by watching a documentary. Didn't we all pretty much know that eating three meals of fast food every day is not good for you? Perhaps if this had been done 20 years ago it would have meant something. Also, as mentioned by others, it depends a great deal on what the individual orders. Finally, I'm sick of people picking on McDonald's. It's not just fast food, it's restaurant food. If you ate three meals a day at a typical family restaurant, ate everything on the menu at least once, and ordered a dessert everytime the waitress suggested the idea, I bet you would gain just as much weight. I've always felt that McDonald's has done a pretty good job of listening to their customers throughout the years whether that meant offering salads, wraps, McLean Delux (remember?) changing to vegetable shortening, getting rid of the styrofoam and using more recyclable and recycled materials and so on. They are picked on mostly because they're the biggest (good thing that only happens to businesses and not countries) and are seen as a symbol of big business, Americanization, and globalization.


While I agree with what you've said, I should point out:

1) The dude made the documentary because some McDonald's spokesman said Mickey D's food is healthy and nutrious, or some complete BS like that.

2) They actually didn't change to vegetable shortening when they said they would. Only like a year or two later, when it got out that they hadn't switched yet and still used the same fatty oil they had always been using, did they finally make the switch.
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Hank Scorpio



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
2) They actually didn't change to vegetable shortening when they said they would. Only like a year or two later, when it got out that they hadn't switched yet and still used the same fatty oil they had always been using, did they finally make the switch.


And I still curse them to this day for that. Do any of you even remember how good the fries cooked in lard tasted? They were like manna from the Gods, people.

You want to protest something, protest that, don't protest something that any 5 year old should know, namely that fried foods can make you fat.
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
1) The dude made the documentary because some McDonald's spokesman said Mickey D's food is healthy and nutrious, or some complete BS like that.


No, I don't recall him saying that. He made the documentary because Michael Moore didn't think of it first! I loved when he interviewed the lawyer who was bringing suit against McDonald's for making people fat. He asked the guy "Why are you doing it?" and the guy said, "You mean, besides money? You want a noble reason or something?" It was hilarious. Maybe you had to see it.

I agree his food choices were stupid. He always drank the regular coke and always the large or super size. I believe Americans drink Diet Coke more than regular Coke... certainly around the campus when i was in grad school that was the case. Anyway, he claimed he wanted to eat the "average" McDonalds' meal but he was lying about that.

PS: I bet he had a delicious month, though!
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SarcasmKills



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone want to guess how long before it's revealed that McDonald's someone covertly sponsored this ordeal in some way?
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SarcasmKills wrote:
Anyone want to guess how long before it's revealed that McDonald's someone covertly sponsored this ordeal in some way?

Hey, no publicity is bad publicity, right?

I'm not a huge fan of McDonald's or any hamburger chain, which has more to do with my take-'em-or-leave-'em feelings about hamburgers regardless of how good & tasty they might be. But I have to confess I've probably eaten at McDonald's more since that book/movie came out than I would have otherwise.

I grew up in an era when fastfood restaurants just didn't play so fast & loose with their loyal followers by changing or adding things to their menus all the time. When they did, it was done at the speed of treacle. So I suppose it was the book's/movie's constant mentioning of McDonald's "healthier alternatives" (the ones the author didn't eat) which prompted me to drop in at the Golden Arches and try a few. And although I'm sure they hear it a 32 billion times a day, I always begin every order by telling the girl behind the register to "supersize me!"
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