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Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

Since I was 11 or 12, I read every book that I could lay my hands on about the Vietnam War. All hindsight based, scoured the internet, spent hours talking with a friend who was there for 4 tours. Wasted most of my life trying to understand it (no social skills, due to who wants to talk about Vietnam). Spoke to anyone I came across who was there. Read accounts from people who suffered after the War ended, before the war started and during the war. After all these years, it was complicated and no one seems to know if was truly unwinnable or truly unloseable or just a FU due to actions on the ground. Even now I still read about it, the MIA's, the whole nine yards and I must admit.

I AM NOT WILLING TO SAY I TRULY UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE SCENE.

But I note how many people seem to believe that after a war has gone on for 4 years (the public war against terrorism), they know everything. They argue thier points, say if you do this or that, then this or that will happen. They say listen to this or that person.

WILL SOMEONE ADMIT, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW!!! HISTORY DOES NOT TRULY EXPLAIN WAR, THE FOG OF WAR STILL EXISTS, IT STILL CLOUDS REGARDLESS OF TV AND BLOGGS. YOU WILL ONLY EVER CATCH A PIECE OF IT, NOT THE WHOLE THING. FACE IT AND TRY NOT TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST. THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE WAR AND THOSE WHO DON'T. BOTH WERE AT FAULT DURING THE VIETNAM WAR.

Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

I feel confident I know whe doesn't know what the hell he's doing in this "war" on terrorism, and he's sitting in the Oval Office.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

It's always an error to assume that people currently in office or sitting behind policymaking desks know what they are doing, in a political party, or in any historical era or nation.

Most who treat this subject are politicking and not investigating history. There's a huge difference between the two.

mithridates · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:09 am Post subject:

Here's what you know when you don't pay attention:

Here's what you know when you pay a lot of attention:

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

I guess the point I was trying to make, is that everything is seen through the prism of ones experiences. Thus war, political dispute, etc is always defined by what we know, think, have been brought up to believe in, or any other prism that we look through,

Thus this war just like any other before us is truly not able to be understood even if done through the prism of hind sight. I just wish Confused

that people who are educated Rolling Eyes

on this forum could truly understand that in most cases we are uneducated as to war, because we have not personally experienced one or we have only experienced 1.

Thus maybe instead of making everything black and white in our arguments about a war (read the forums for examples) we could all agree to disagree with personal attacks. This time in our lives is important, we are living the violence and the war, whether through concern for those apart from us or in our lives personal.

It is not for us to write our script in bold black letters, proclaiming it to the world. This is being done already in the greys of smoke, reds of blood and silence of deafness caused by those who have caused actions not just against our bodies, our minds or our dreams but also against our spirits.

The strenght that is in us, the hope that looks forward, the patience that lets us turn aside an attack, the openess that greets each new face, each of these is being wounded by our attackers. Do we have to attack each other, I do not have to go far to find one, take a plane, visit a major city, stay at home. Those who seek to further thier cause through violence and our shattered lives will seek us out.

Lets just agree to disagree, make points in an argument, not personal attacks. To those who wrote before me who I know and who did not condemn. Thank you, may violence never visit your door and peace never leave it.