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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: School Allows Cursing at Teacher |
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U.K. school tailors policy to foul mouths
Students can use 'f-word' up to 5 times per lesson
"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," the Daily Mail quoted White as writing in a letter. "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."
MSNBC; School Inc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/ |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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FIVE TIMES per lesson? Five strikes and you're out? That's incredible. I wonder how many students are in each class... let's think, if there's 10 students they can curse the teacher 40 times without getting in trouble. Great... |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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"Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."
Wow, they "will be spoken to by the teacher." |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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"will be spoken to by the teacher." |
... and advised to join the military? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Absolute madness. The UK is a really messed up place. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Real Reality wrote: |
"Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."
Wow, they "will be spoken to by the teacher." |
At which thime the student will be told to f___off six times. The teacher is still in charge, afterall. |
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yoda

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Location: Incheon, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Unfrickenbelievable. That's like saying they basically have thrown in the towl. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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You can bet dollars to doughnuts that the engineer of this bizzare pilot project is someone on the fringes of the left wing fraternity. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Outer fringes .... some of my friends are left-wing. |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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is someone on the fringes of the left wing fraternity. |
And it is this fringe which has systematically destroyed the British education system since the 1970s. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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i'd save all of mine for the end of class and shout FU five times at the teacher as loud as i could while giving him or her the fingers and dancing a little jig.
actually, that's not at all what i would do. i was a pretty shy kid and didn't like to make any waves. but it's something i would have probably thought about doing a lot, and it would likely cause me to start giggling in class.
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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bigverne wrote: |
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is someone on the fringes of the left wing fraternity. |
And it is this fringe which has systematically destroyed the British education system since the 1970s. |
I wish you were wrong. |
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hypnotist

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Wangja wrote: |
bigverne wrote: |
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is someone on the fringes of the left wing fraternity. |
And it is this fringe which has systematically destroyed the British education system since the 1970s. |
I wish you were wrong. |
No, no, no. I wish you WAS wrong.
-- hypnotist, a product of the British edderkashun system in the 80s.
(The system has been systematically attacked by both sides - poor teaching methodologies on the left, and ridiculous attempts to open the system up to "the market" on the right - combined with continual changes by just about everyone on both sides. Truth is, I don't think we actually know what works in our schools any more. And first Thatcher lost respect in the teachers and the school system (where was my milk, Maggie?), then did the media, dragging most of the population along with them - and what a wonder that we're surprised that teachers aren't respected by their pupils?) |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
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ridiculous attempts to open the system up to "the market" on the right |
This has happened under New Labour, not the Tories, although it has been severely limited and not really market oriented. Really opening up education to the market would be a good idea. Give parents vouchers and let them choose the school they want. Poor teachers, useless subjects and weak teaching methods would soon be discarded.
The damage has been caused mostly by the leftist teaching establishment and their dogmatic belief in absolute equality. In the past, poor kids had a chance of a good education through the grammar school system. Now many are stuck in dire comprehensives, where discipline and academic achivement are non-existent. Meanwhile, the middle classes simply pay for private schools or buy a house in a good school district. The result of this drive for 'equality' has been to create a system based almost solely on wealth.
Most scandalously, to cover up this shambles, both Labour and Tory governments have gerrymandered the exam system, so that each year passes edge near to 100%, which is hardly surprising when you can get half the answers wrong and still be deemed to 'pass'. Every year, educationalists and ministers talk proudly of increasing standards, while the number of graduates having to take remedial courses at university continues to grow. It is reminiscent of Soviet reports of bumper grain harvests, while people barely have enough too eat.
This is why the massive increase in education spending under New Labour will have little effect. Billions are being wasted as poor teaching methods continue, and exams are stripped of any academic rigour. |
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bigverne

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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:57 am Post subject: |
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STANDARDS: HAVE THEY IMPROVED?
� On 20 June 2004, The Sunday Telegraph revealed that 11-year-olds taking their National Curriculum tests in English this year would require only 41 marks out of 100 to reach the standard expected of their age group. In 1997, when the Labour government took office, pupils needed 57 marks out of 100 to reach the expected standard. In 2004, pupils could get most of the test wrong and still achieve the required level. If standards are improving, why is it necessary to lower the �pass mark� year after year?
� In 1989, the mark required to achieve grade C in the higher Oxford and Cambridge GCSE Mathematics paper was 48%. In the year 2000, it was 18%. So candidates could get 4 out of 5 questions wrong and still achieve a top grade.
http://www.cre.org.uk/standards_1.html |
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