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why not do it
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: I move around
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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Strange request from a Korean acquaintance |
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I met a Korean girl through a co-teacher of mine. We got along well, went for coffee once and to a piano recital in Daegu once. Then, after not having heard from her for a few months, I learned she had gone to Seoul and became a police officer.
Nearly 1 1/2 years go by and I receive an e-mail a couple of days ago. She is asking me how to find ESL jobs in Korea, if I remember her, how's life etc....
I write her back and say things are great blah blah blah, and ask her about the cop thing, is it true? Is she quitting? Is it info for a friend?
Yesterday I get another e-mail and she tells me she is still a cop in Changwon working with the immigration department and asked me to pose as a teacher lacking a proper degree and try to get a job so she can arrest the recruiters who will hire me and fake a degree or the paperwork or whatever.
It goes against every grain in my body. I know the fake degree thing has been done to death, but this is a bit of a new wrinkle.
What do you think? I am not going to help her, and am shocked she would ask. I will decline politely, likely saying I don't want to have a negative reputation if I should choose to use one of those recruiters in the future. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| How much are they going to pay you? |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Don't get involved. You never know who they might be dealing with. You might wake up some morning with a horses head on your bed!  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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F[u]ck that. Maybe if we were talking about child prostitution or slave trafficking it would be a noble act, but let`s get real here.
Also, look at her trying to use you. Oh, hey, sorry I completely disappeared and you didn`t hear from me again until I needed something from you. It`s all good!
It AIN`T all good, beitch! |
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postfundie
Joined: 28 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Also, look at her trying to use you. Oh, hey, sorry I completely disappeared and you didn`t hear from me again until I needed something from you. It`s all good!
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AGREED....oh yeah let me use the foreigner when I need something....maybe she should give you something first...actually make that the requirement.... |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| That ain't right. You should tell her off. Some people have no class at all. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| umm... she is busting hakwon's not fake english teachers. wasn't everyone trying to say its the hakwon's fault as well? |
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Sine qua non
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| Maybe if we were talking about child prostitution or slave trafficking it would be a noble act.... |
And doing ths would be a noble act as well. The government is a legitimate authority. And, corrupt though it may be in parts, the Korean government is a just government. Supporting the rule of law is noble in and of itself. OP: I say go for it, but make sure that your friend provides you all of the stamps and official immigration permissions to do this legally (i.e., permission from your employer and make sure that this is added to your visa or Alien Registration Card). And make sure you get paid in the range of 50,000 won/hour for ALL time you are engaged in this activity (preferrably paid upfront).
Having said that....
| Qinella wrote: |
Also, look at her trying to use you. Oh, hey, sorry I completely disappeared and you didn`t hear from me again until I needed something from you.
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AGREED....oh yeah let me use the foreigner when I need something....maybe she should give you something first...actually make that the requirement....
| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
That ain't right. You should tell her off. Some people have no class at all.
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I also tend to agree with these sentiments. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Fools!
W500,000 bounty per crooked recruiter gets me on. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Sine qua non wrote: |
| The government is a legitimate authority. And, corrupt though it may be in parts, the Korean government is a just government. Supporting the rule of law is noble in and of itself. |
Hmmm. One needn't dig very far to find the flaws in that statement. |
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PeterDragon
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| I'll let others pick apart the inherent legitimacy of governments. I will say that if I were in the OP's shoes I would do it as long as I was getting paid and had some assurance directly from immi (shouldn't be hard to get, given the setup) that getting compensated for police assistance would be done in a legitimate taxable form in agreeance with my visa. TO violate an immigration statute in this situation would just be silly. I have no problem busting recruiters or hagwons that hire illegals. I wouldn't want to business with or work for one that did. SImilarly, I eschew American employers that hire illegals. I personally don't want to trust my paycheck with someone like that. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Is she hot and single?
Do you have any affinity towards the crooked little rat-barstud recruiters that would be getting busted?
What sort of payment will you be getting for your services?
What sort of guarantee do you have that you won't get busted or entangled in legal proceedings yourself? |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Interesting question. Is entrapment a legal reality in Korea? Because that is what it sounds like you would have been a part of.
Sounds like you made the right choice. |
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Paji eh Wong wrote: |
Interesting question. Is entrapment a legal reality in Korea? Because that is what it sounds like you would have been a part of.
Sounds like you made the right choice. |
I'd love to see how they'd set this one up.
"Uhh, Hi my name is Johnny and I have a fake degree. Will you hire me?"
On second thought: Would it be entrapment if he pretended that he didn't have a University degree and applied for jobs but never mentioned anything about faking documents or whatever, leaving the schools and recruiters rope to hang themselves with by faking his documents? Morals aside, it sounds like a fun job. |
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